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To: stockpirate

Oh he’s garbage. This is all kabuki theater. Or more precisely, the highest stakes poker game on earth. Very dangerous too because someone’s bound to go all in. If the Democrats go all in and decide to obstruct reform/bailout, they are saying lets bring this thing down right now and see if we can get all the 401K wiped out white collars to come over. The republicans have more modest goals. They are raising the democrats right figuring they’ll freak and fold. McCain won the argument about whether the campaigns should be suspended so huge points to him. Political theater. These investment banks were going down regardless. It’s the timing that’s important. People have come to expect crisis in September.


43 posted on 09/26/2008 6:26:24 AM PDT by kinghorse (Is market intervention a moral hazard if it stops people who arent forced sellers from selling out?)
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To: kinghorse
We do not want the government in total control of our finacial markets.

We should not nationalize this industry.

51 posted on 09/26/2008 6:34:28 AM PDT by stockpirate (Welcome to the United Socialist States of America - USSA - STOP THE BAILOUT!)
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To: kinghorse
If the Democrats go all in and decide to obstruct reform/bailout, they are saying lets bring this thing down right now and see if we can get all the 401K wiped out white collars to come over.

The GOP (assisted by the DBM, ironically) is doing a great job of painting the bailout as a big taxpayer payoff to Wall St. fat cats (which, in truth, it is). They are using the class warfare card against the Democrats, who are champing at the bit to pass this bill.

The people are getting this and that's why opposition to the bailout is so fierce.

If Democrats can be painted as being all in favor of this bailout in its original form (payoff to fat cats) and then oppose an alternative which is more favorable to the little guy, then I like those odds for the GOP. GOP talking points:

"Democrats were all in favor of this bill when the taxpayer money was going to their fat cat friends on Wall St. and to their left wing interest groups like ACORN and La Raza, but they're opposed to a plan that would impose stricter regulations on the industry and not cost the taxpayers a dime."

I'm starting to think that there will be a bill, but it won't be the Bush/Paulson version or even a semblance of it. And it won't be passed today, or maybe even next week. But the longer the delay, the better the bill will be, IMO.

81 posted on 09/26/2008 7:22:03 AM PDT by randita
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