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Everything You Wanted to Know About the Credit Crisis (Ben Stein)
finance.yahoo. ^ | September 22, 2008, 12:00AM | Ben Stein

Posted on 09/23/2008 6:09:50 AM PDT by dennisw

Here s one big part of the answer. First, the alert reader will notice that Ben Stein said many times that the amount of money at risk in the subprime meltdown was just not enough to sink an economy of this size. And I was right...to a point. The amount of subprime that defaulted was at most - after recovery in liquidation - about $250 billion. A huge sum but not enough to torpedo the US economy.

The crisis occurred (to greatly oversimplify) because the financial system allowed entities to place bets on whether or not those mortgages would ever be paid. You didn't have to own a mortgage to make the bets. These bets, called Credit Default Swaps, are complex. But in a nutshell, they allow someone to profit immensely - staggeringly - if large numbers of subprime mortgages are not paid off and go into default.

The profit can be wildly out of proportion to the real amount of defaults, because speculators can push down the price of instruments tied to the subprime mortgages far beyond what the real rates of loss have been. As I said, the profits here can be beyond imagining. (In fact, they can be so large that one might well wonder if the whole subprime fiasco was not set up just to allow speculators to profit wildly on its collapse...)

These Credit Default Swaps have been written (as insurance is written) as private contracts. There is nil government regulation of them. Who writes these policies? Banks. Investment banks. Insurance companies. They now owe the buyers of these Credit Default Swaps on junk mortgage debt trillions of dollars. It is this liability that is the bottomless pit of liability for the financial institutions of America.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: creditdefaultswaps; creditderivatives; economicpolicy; financialcrisis; govwatch; housingbubble
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1 posted on 09/23/2008 6:09:50 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: dennisw

YOU REALLY MUST READ THE ENTIRE ARTICLE

Very good explanation of the problems


2 posted on 09/23/2008 6:10:48 AM PDT by dennisw (Never bet on Islam! ::::: Never bet on a false prophet!)
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To: dennisw

credibility, once squandered, is hard to reclaim with phrases like “I was right, to a point...”.


3 posted on 09/23/2008 6:11:45 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: dennisw

Ben wrote an article months ago on this mess and got it wrong in a big way.


4 posted on 09/23/2008 6:15:20 AM PDT by RexBeach ("Americans never quit!" Douglas MacArthur)
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To: dennisw
This is how your George Soro’s of the world become rich. We have foreigners in here draining America dry and quite a few of them are supporting Obama.
5 posted on 09/23/2008 6:15:49 AM PDT by gunnedah
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To: dennisw
The profit can be wildly out of proportion to the real amount of defaults, because speculators can push down the price of instruments tied to the subprime mortgages far beyond what the real rates of loss have been.

So if somebody buys them when their prices have been pushed down, they stand to make quite a profit if they can hold them long enough.

6 posted on 09/23/2008 6:17:44 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: dennisw

read later


7 posted on 09/23/2008 6:20:37 AM PDT by Mark was here (The earth is bipolar.)
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To: dennisw

Great article(opinion piece) at the Bloomberg site, Titled “ How the Democrats Created the Financial Crisis: Kevin Hassett;
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601039&refer=columnist_hassett&sid=aSKSoiNbnQY0


8 posted on 09/23/2008 6:21:29 AM PDT by phil1750 (Love like you've never been hurt;Dance like nobody's watching;PRAY like it's your last prayer)
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To: dennisw

Credit Default Swaps. In the words of Dennise Miller, “F’em. Don’t pay ‘em.”


9 posted on 09/23/2008 6:22:11 AM PDT by CodeToad
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To: dennisw

If that kind of financial activity can so adversely affect our society, then it should be illegal.


10 posted on 09/23/2008 6:26:49 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: RexBeach

And he’s wrong again.


11 posted on 09/23/2008 6:27:13 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: dennisw

Ping for later...


12 posted on 09/23/2008 6:28:33 AM PDT by VigilantAmerican (We will not waver, we will not tire; we will not falter, we will not fail)
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To: dennisw

red eye reducing bump


13 posted on 09/23/2008 6:29:14 AM PDT by Cyclone59 (umm, - that decision, ummm, is above my paygrade)
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To: Moonman62

Hey, it’s a gift!

Although I enjoy Mr. Stein as a rule.


14 posted on 09/23/2008 6:29:34 AM PDT by RexBeach ("Americans never quit!" Douglas MacArthur)
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To: dennisw
I think the solution is simple. Credit Default Swaps should only be honored when the bond that has defaulted is presented by the holder of the CDS and bond.

The rest were illegal insurance scams. It is exactly the same if I, and 1,000 other people purchase homeowner’s insurance on your home, and then root for it to burn down, (or set it on fire), so we can collect.

Whenever one takes out an insurance policy, there must be an insurable interest. Since the speculators in CDS, did not own the underlying securities, the CDS should be declared invalid, for lack of an insurable interest. If I tried to collect on an insurance policy I took out on a home I did not own, I would not be paid, and might face criminal charges.

Those who bought CDS on securities they do not own, should eat their losses and be thankful they are not prosecuted for insurance fraud.

15 posted on 09/23/2008 6:33:02 AM PDT by Above My Pay Grade
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To: CodeToad

Geeez- I read that too fast and thought is said
DENNIS MILLER!!!!


16 posted on 09/23/2008 6:33:21 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: dennisw
AIG’s Dangerous Collapse & A Credit Derivatives Risk Primer

A more detailed primer. They have been using billions of dollars to place bets and lost. Now we are expected to cover it.

17 posted on 09/23/2008 6:38:46 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: Wolfie

It can only adversely affect our society when done on a large level. No different than if everyone became a compulsive gambler overnight and let everything ride on “Black”.


18 posted on 09/23/2008 6:38:48 AM PDT by thefrankbaum (Ad maiorem Dei gloriam)
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To: dennisw

Government intrusions into the real economic world are cloaked in an appealing demagogic sophistry which conceals the feral appetites these policies satisfy.

They lift their muzzles from the public trough only to lie.


19 posted on 09/23/2008 6:38:51 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Genocide is the highest sacrament of socialism.)
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To: dennisw

He like Cramer thinks in hindsight that a bailout of a small piece of the financial crap could have been singled out and the rest made whole. Our coming “diversity recession” might have been led off by giving money away to deadbeats and layabouts but the risk mitigation amnesty extends all the way up the financial empire to the top. Does Ben Stein want to buy a strip mall?


20 posted on 09/23/2008 6:41:57 AM PDT by junta ("Better dead than white")
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