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Iraq may execute MP for Israel visit
Jerusalem Post ^ | Sep 22, 2008 | AP AND HERB KEINON

Posted on 09/22/2008 9:10:39 PM PDT by Ooh-Ah

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1 posted on 09/22/2008 9:10:39 PM PDT by Ooh-Ah
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To: Ooh-Ah

Words fail me.


2 posted on 09/22/2008 9:13:07 PM PDT by null and void (0bama: Why are you in the PUMA cage? Biden: I'm not in the PUMA cage, you are. 0bama; AAHH)
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To: Ooh-Ah
The US Embassy declined comment. "It is an issue for the Iraqi parliament, not the US Mission to Iraq," said spokesman Armand Cucciniello.

Declined comment?? How spineless of this administration. Thousands of our men and women didn't die so that fascism could prevail in Iraq.

3 posted on 09/22/2008 9:17:02 PM PDT by Azzurri
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To: Ooh-Ah
If Israel had been given back the land that was part of the Balfour accord and Iraq had been divided into three sections like it should of been then we would not be hearing this nonsenses today.
4 posted on 09/22/2008 9:18:32 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (Psalm 83:1-8 is on the horizon.)
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To: Ooh-Ah

With or without WMD’s we had plenty of justification to take out Saddam, but Bush and I parted company on the compassion issue. No matter what we do to or for these people, in the end, we are still the infidel and we know what the muzzie thinks of Jews and infidels.


5 posted on 09/22/2008 9:23:09 PM PDT by umgud
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To: Azzurri
"Declined comment?? How spineless of this administration. Thousands of our men and women didn't die so that fascism could prevail in Iraq."

Megabump!

6 posted on 09/22/2008 9:24:27 PM PDT by KantianBurke (President Bush, why did you abandon Specialist Ahmed Qusai al-Taei?)
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To: umgud

Well said.


7 posted on 09/22/2008 9:25:14 PM PDT by Mr. Know It All (Quicumque vult salvus esse, ante omnia opus est, ut teneat catholicam fidem)
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To: Ooh-Ah
Al-Alusi has a German passport, allowing him to travel without visa restrictions imposed on other Iraqis. Lawmakers accused him of humiliating the nation with a trip to the "enemy" state.

Suddenly I'm losing my passion for "victory" in Iraq. If this is the kind of government we are getting for all the shed blood of Americans, then it was not worth the effort.

8 posted on 09/22/2008 9:37:45 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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Some people are still stuck on stupid. Another generation of American advisors might make the difference, and that is my hope.

My son, a Jewish American soldier helped to liberate Iraq. It is about time that they grew up.


9 posted on 09/22/2008 9:49:21 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Azzurri

I hope the U.S. will find its tongue and step up in some way to help this guy. These people are beyond it.


10 posted on 09/22/2008 9:50:40 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
It is about time that they grew up.

Apparently we are not strong willed enough to ask them to grow up. We are powerful enough to reduce their entire country to a sea of glass, but we are not willing to forcefully ask them to act a little more mature than the devils that we liberated them from.

I have a feeling that after we leave, nothing will have changed except the name of the dictator. They will resume their endless war with Iran and they will be paying suicide bombers to kill civilians in Israel. They will begin the process of becoming a nuclear power and they will threaten to nuke Israel in order to show the world that they will not tolerate a Jewish State. They will expel all the Christians and ultimately they will resume their internal hatred of each other until there is nothing left of Iraq except sand dunes and graveyards.

When I read crap like this I begin to get very depressed about the future of this planet. History repeats itself, but then nobody ever learns that History lesson.

11 posted on 09/22/2008 9:59:27 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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I disagree.

I would rather have this government than Saddam.

Those were our only options.

In our early days as a nation we violated what the new nation was supposed to stand for. It took us a long time to get pretty close to the ideals that our own people shed blood over.

I’m not equating Iraq with the value of America.

I’m reminding that we failed before we succeeded in several areas.

Saddam was paying the family of every Palestinian suicide bomber $25,000 for killing Israeli men, women and children in their cities, towns, villages and countryside.

He knowingly supported terrorism against innocents and harbored infamous terrorists inside Iraq.

He terrorized his own captive population in the torture chambers, jails, rape rooms and death houses, by the tens and hundreds of thousands.

Daily his henchmen shot at our planes that patrolled the No Fly Zone to keep down his ability to massacre his disfavored populations or invade his neighbors.

Thank you American soldiers. Your sacrifice is noble and not in vain. What you achieved is infinitely better than what was, as flawed as it might be.


12 posted on 09/22/2008 10:01:22 PM PDT by txrangerette (Just say "no" to the Obama Cult.)
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To: P-Marlowe

You don’t know that.

Your crystal ball is hardly infallible.

Our soldiers have said it is worth it.

I believe THEM.


13 posted on 09/22/2008 10:03:05 PM PDT by txrangerette (Just say "no" to the Obama Cult.)
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To: Ooh-Ah
I have long thought the invasion of Iraq would not ignite the fire of democracy in the Islamic world as promised by Bush. So far I have not been embarrassed. All kinds of success stories come out of Iraq by the Bush administration, but some hard facts remain.

Christians are fleeing the state. The monster Saddam actually afforded them some good protection. The Jews are still despised. It appears no enlightenment comes from democracy in Islam. It still takes American forces to actively combat Islamists. I know, I know. Americans are still in Germany. However, they are there as a forward base against Russia. We are not shooting Germans.

I think the unstated reason Bush invaded Iraq was to strike at the heart of Islam. By occupying Iraq and Afghanistan along with maintaining ties with a secular Turkey, America has cut the Islamic world in two. It now surrounds Syria and most of Iran. Lybia was isolated from its champions. It's strategic positioning for a long term geopolitical goal.

I understand the strategy; its to posture American ruling elite's power to protect what? There is only one thing the elite care about beside power, and that is money. They are protecting it from gangsters who would like to take over the oil operation. The sad part about this we are protecting the Saudis. we pay them for their oil. We pay for their protection. They show their thanks by raising prices. Oh, and they pay Jim Baker and his legion of lawyers to protect who? And they pay Clinton a hundred million dollars after his presidency to show his successors how the game works.

America needs a bath.

14 posted on 09/22/2008 10:04:45 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts
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To: txrangerette
In our early days as a nation we violated what the new nation was supposed to stand for.

We didn't execute people for talking to Jews.

I’m not equating Iraq with the value of America. I’m reminding that we failed before we succeeded in several areas.

Iraq will never be what America was. But then again America will probably never again be what America was.

Saddam was paying the family of every Palestinian suicide bomber $25,000 for killing Israeli men, women and children in their cities, towns, villages and countryside.

See post 11.

15 posted on 09/22/2008 10:05:08 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: umgud

Bush is out of his mind if he thinks we’ll ever ‘get along’ with these animals.

He helped reduce the threat of course with the war, by getting rid of the regime. However, they are our enemies and always will be. We’ll be fighting these idiots again someday down the road.


16 posted on 09/22/2008 10:06:40 PM PDT by MartinStyles
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To: txrangerette
Our soldiers have said it is worth it. I believe THEM.

What happens when they leave? What kind of government will Iraq choose for itself?

Right now it has chosen a government that will execute it own citizens for visiting Israel. It has chosen a government that calls Israel it's "Enemy". And this is while Jewish Americans are dying to protect their @$$e$ from their own Muslim terrorists.

Are you really that optimistic that when we leave, Iraq will suddenly see the error of the ways of fundamentalist Islam and embrace Christians and Jews and be a friend to Israel and America?

This article tells me that Iraq will most likely slink back into the 12 century the minute that they no longer have to pretend to like Americans.

We liberated France and within a generation they hated us as much as they hated their German oppressors. Will Iraq be an exception to that rule?

17 posted on 09/22/2008 10:12:39 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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“I have long thought the invasion of Iraq would not ignite the fire of democracy in the Islamic world as promised by Bush.”

I don't think he ever “promised” that. In fact, I recall him saying that the war on Islamic terrorists was going to be long and difficult, with many successes and a few setbacks, but that in the end we would prevail. I stand with him on that, and I don't think I'll be embarrassed in the end.

18 posted on 09/22/2008 11:20:49 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: P-Marlowe

The big problem is that we let them enshrine Islam in their constitution. I was stunned when we did that: we were in a position to insist that it be entirely secular, but we let them go ahead with declaring that it was an Islamic state and nothing in it should conflict with Islamic law. Since Islamic law is actually political and governs every aspect of Muslim life, including the treatment of the infidel, that first phrase basically negated anything else in their constitution.


19 posted on 09/23/2008 3:54:08 AM PDT by livius
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A rather unfortunate situation, encouraged by American moral cowardice.

It is an issue for the Iraqi parliament, not the US Mission to Iraq
Armand Cucciniello, US Embassy spokesman

20 posted on 09/23/2008 5:26:43 AM PDT by SJackson (as a black man, you know, Barack can get shot going to the gas station, Michelle O)
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