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To: mrsmel
Flame away, but there’s not one part of Africa that has done better since the end of colonial rule.

Flame away but it was European colonialism that, at root, caused all these problems. Britain, Franc, Belgium etc. conquest and carving up of Africa is the cause of all this mess. Yes, they governed better than the current crop of thugs but what right did they have to take Africa in the first place?

9 posted on 09/21/2008 10:59:56 AM PDT by jalisco555 ("My 80% friend is not my 20% enemy" - Ronald Reagan)
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To: jalisco555

You mean, Africa didn’t have tribal warfare and was progressing nicely along with the rest of the world before colonialism? They were keeping up technologically, making good use of their rich resources, all getting along peacefully, before the evil whites showed up? They were curing malaria, making clean drinking water, building great public works? It’s all the evil white man’s fault, even before he ever showed up in Africa, that Africa was behind in progress. And it was a land of peace and plenty before then.

I’m not saying colonialism was morally right, but it wasn’t colonialism that caused Africa’s problems, colonialism even stemmed some of them-Africa has reverted right back to the rule of the strong man since its end.


11 posted on 09/21/2008 11:11:53 AM PDT by mrsmel
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To: jalisco555
Flame away but it was European colonialism that, at root, caused all these problems.

European colonialism did not lead to stable African nations, in large part because the borders did not reflect local tribal identity. In addition, during the pre-independence period they brought numbers of future African leaders to school in Europe, where they learned Marxist nonsense. BUT, the idea that Africa would be better off in the primitive brutal barbaric societies that prevailed before the colonial period is ludicrous.

12 posted on 09/21/2008 11:12:17 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (White Trash for Sarah!)
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To: jalisco555
“Flame away, but there’s not one part of Africa that has done better since the end of colonial rule.”

“Flame away but it was European colonialism that, at root, caused all these problems. Britain, Franc, Belgium etc. conquest and carving up of Africa is the cause of all this mess. Yes, they governed better than the current crop of thugs but what right did they have to take Africa in the first place?”

Wait, wasn't the Americas “Colonized”? So the native Africans are better off with Genocide, starvation, disease, and poverty. Africa should be re-colonized, with 100 year contracts that would allow them to return to self rule after they were educated through 4 -5 generations, in civilization and governance.

I had a manufacturing plant in SA where I was training blacks in trades, and management, but due to US do gooders, cutting off dollars to SA, I had to close the plant.

14 posted on 09/21/2008 11:21:35 AM PDT by stubernx98 (cranky, but reasonable)
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To: jalisco555; Travis McGee; puroresu

lol...PC meet koolaid

yep Africa was a veritable paradise before those nasty brutish Euroracists got there...

much like the Amerindian western hemisphere was too

naked folks running around eating mangoes and having warm fuzzy moments

believe it or not colonialism was thought of as more benign than just going in and taking what you wanted and killing everyone who got in the way which was the common course of human history in the past

Christendom and white man’s burden pushed civilizing savages and teaching them salvation whether they wanted it or not.

Now they are simply reverting to their natural ways. Mass murder, rampant disease and an inability to govern themselves.

Rights?

that is a very new concept in the persuasion of conquest for land and material as practiced by every culture through out our recorded history?

why hold whites to higher standards?

are whites smarter, more accountable maybe? Why?

I’ve lived the world over including much of the 3rd one and I can tell you that anywhere the Brits laid a footprint is better off for it....maybe Hibernia is an exception but that’s debatable.


22 posted on 09/21/2008 4:58:13 PM PDT by wardaddy (Sandra Bernhard should not be allowed around livestock unsupervised.)
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To: jalisco555
Well there is a lot you say that is true. But if the White Man had never come to Africa then it would as it was before. Absolutely Tribal. There would no progress just the same as they had lived for thousands of years. Without any outside stimulus of ideas they would living in the blissful ignorance they were before the Europeans came.
25 posted on 09/21/2008 5:03:04 PM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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