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ELECTION 08: Bill would keep abortion legal even if Roe v. Wade someday overturned
Baptist Press ^ | Sep 19, 2008 | Michael Foust

Posted on 09/20/2008 8:42:05 AM PDT by Graybeard58

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1 posted on 09/20/2008 8:42:05 AM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: Graybeard58

A bill is just a bill and can be overturned unlike a Supreme Court ruling. Depending on how far-reaching the bill is, it would probably be ruled unconstitutional.


2 posted on 09/20/2008 8:44:47 AM PDT by Always Right (Obama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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To: Graybeard58

Thanks for the heads up on this!


3 posted on 09/20/2008 8:46:07 AM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Graybeard58

Obama said in a speech to PP that his first act as president would be to get this bill passed.


4 posted on 09/20/2008 8:47:02 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Always Right

Even if it got through congress, dubya would veto it. Next year, McCain wouldn’t have to veto one because we will have more republicans in the house and senate.


5 posted on 09/20/2008 8:48:09 AM PDT by Mogollon ($5/gal Gas....Kick the Jacka$$es Out!)
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To: Graybeard58
Roe v. Wade should be overturned, but not on the grounds that abortion is "a matter for the states."

The XIVth Amendment of the US Constitution guarantees the right to life of every innocent person in the United States at a federal level - the states do not get to decide if the innocent live or die.

Abortion is a blatant violation of the XIVth Amendment.

6 posted on 09/20/2008 8:49:14 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who like to be called Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: Mamzelle

Legally, if Roe were overturned, then it would be up to each state to pass their own laws on abortion,unless this federal law gets passed. Assuming McCain would veto this freedom of choice act, then it would just be up to the states. But remember, liberal states would allow abortion on demand, while more socially conservative states would restrict abortion. Roe vs. Wade being overturned does not mean abortion is illegal again. I’m always surprised at how some of these idiot educated commentators on TV miss this simple point.

One more reason to hope and pray and vote so we don’t see an Obama presidency. A President Obama with backing from the Democrat congress may do some damage.


7 posted on 09/20/2008 8:51:34 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Graybeard58
Obama's 'civilian national security force'

This should be a real wake-up call for all Americans who value life.

8 posted on 09/20/2008 8:56:41 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Obama's Pay Grade: Chump Change - Under the Cone of Stupid)
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To: Graybeard58

NOW, NOW, NOW...THERE THOSE LEFTISTS GO AGAIN.

9 posted on 09/20/2008 8:58:30 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Mogollon

You’re optimistic about next year. Lots of people have been saying that Democrats will beef up their majorities in both the House and Senate in the November elections. I hope you are right and they are all wrong.

The worst combination of all would be a President Obama with backing from bigger Democrat majorities in the House and Senate.

Republicans in the Senate may be using the filibuster a lot with President Obama asking for legislation for this or that liberal cause.


10 posted on 09/20/2008 8:58:44 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Graybeard58

The Federal Government can pass a national law to protect states from limiting abortion? Under what pretense? This is WHY the Left pushes for judical activism.


11 posted on 09/20/2008 9:04:41 AM PDT by weegee (Obama's a uniter?"I want you to argue with them (friends,neighbors,Republicans) & get in their face")
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To: Dilbert San Diego
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12 posted on 09/20/2008 9:22:07 AM PDT by SkyDancer ("I Believe In The Law Until It Interferes With Justice")
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Based on what I’ve seen, I predict that the Dems will make gains in the Senate but that Repubs will make gains in the House, possibly even take it back. That said, the problem is that the Senate is what decides on SCOTUS nominees and that could still be a problem even if McCain wins.


13 posted on 09/20/2008 9:40:46 AM PDT by hout8475
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To: Graybeard58; Sun; fetal heart beats by 21st day; Salvation; Kevmo; pissant; Calpernia; ...
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"It's a very extreme measure," Johnson said. "It's a bill that would make partial-birth abortion legal again, force taxpayers to pay for abortion on demand and invalidate virtually all state and federal limitations on abortion. These radical pro-abortion effects would continue even if Roe vs. Wade was overturned, because the bill really is entirely unconnected to Roe vs. Wade.

14 posted on 09/20/2008 9:42:45 AM PDT by Just A Nobody (PISSANT for President '08 - NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: Graybeard58
But what if the Supreme Court someday overturns Roe, and abortion nevertheless remains legal?

You can always modify a bill. And you can bet your last dollar this one will be "modified"

15 posted on 09/20/2008 9:50:01 AM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: wideawake
Abortion is a blatant violation of the XIVth Amendment.

Abortion due to rape? Abortion to save the life of the mother? Get real; going back to the states will slash the abortion rate. You gotta do what you gotta do, in the real world.

16 posted on 09/20/2008 9:51:58 AM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: Always Right
I oppose the bill but at least this proposed legislation is a forthright and honest approach to the issue. The bill places the question squarely before the Congress. It allows members to debate and vote on the issue, it allows the elected representatives of the people to decide the issue directly rather than rely of a foolish and specious decision by the Supreme Court declaring abortion to be part of an emanation from a penumbra to the Constitution, whatever that idiotic construction is construed to mean.
17 posted on 09/20/2008 9:52:24 AM PDT by quadrant
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To: Graybeard58
A Life at Conception Act - as introduced by Congressman Duncan Hunter (H.R. 618) - is legislation that, quite simply, would declare the unborn to be “persons” under the 14th Amendment to the Constitution, and therefore entitled to the right to life guaranteed therein.

Life at Conception Act

Follows the High Court’s Instructions To Define When Life Begins

Now the time to grovel before the Supreme Court is over. Working from what the Supreme Court ruled in Roe, pro-life lawmakers can pass a Life at Conception Act and end abortion by using the Constitution instead of amending it.

A simple majority vote is all that is needed to pass a Life at Conception Act as opposed to the two-thirds required to add a Constitutional amendment.

When the Supreme Court handed down its now-infamous Roe v. Wade decision, it did so based on a new, previously undefined “right of privacy” which it “discovered” in so-called “emanations” of “penumbrae” of the Constitution. Of course, as constitutional law it was a disaster. But never once did the Supreme Court declare abortion itself to be a Constitutional right.

Instead the Supreme Court said:
“We need not resolve the difficult question of when life begins . . . the judiciary at this point in the development of man’s knowledge, is not in a position to speculate as to the answer.”




18 posted on 09/20/2008 9:57:56 AM PDT by Just A Nobody (PISSANT for President '08 - NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I believe the only way abortion would be destroyed would be by the hand of God. Too many women have convinced themselves that in order to be like a man she should NOT have children or have the same no responsibilities when it comes to sex without birth control. Too many women are abused by the abortion issue sexually,in other words they can just get rid of IT. Women take the risk rather they are wounded or die so really women have not put themselves on the same level as men. I pray through God women will wake up and embrace the gift God has given them,gift of life. That is the reason someone like Sarah Palin is such a threat after all she did give birth to a down syndrome baby. Even on the O’Reilly Factor with Laura Ingram both agreed that’s why the liberal left viciously hate Sarah,abortion issue. Pathetic and evil.As long as the liberal left is in power,democrats,abortion will always remain legal,someway,somehow. Look what the dems did to Hillary the strong pro-choice liberal woman,they dumped her.And now the democrats are telling women to be afraid be very afraid the GOP is going to take the right of women to have abortions.That’s how they keep their women in line to vote for them but when they had one to lead they said no.


19 posted on 09/20/2008 11:00:17 AM PDT by red irish (Gods Children in the womb are to be loved too!)
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To: Always Right

Abortion is not a Federal matter; there is nothing in the
Constitution about it. It is clearly a State matter.


20 posted on 09/20/2008 11:58:11 AM PDT by upcountryhorseman (An old fashioned conservative)
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