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To: Woodman

No insult was intended. I was making a poor joke about Quaker Oats.


69 posted on 09/19/2008 6:52:19 PM PDT by billhilly (I was republican when republican wasn't cool. (With an apology to Barbara Mandrell.))
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To: billhilly
Hey, it's not you. My modern brethren have a certain very vocal element that paint all of us in a bad light.

I can tell you a quaker story from the late 60’s that may put it in perspective. The meeting I used to attend in Eugene Oregon (a place that made Bezerkley look conservative) used to have a contingent of young men in uniform attend Sunday meetings. No one ever treated them any different than anyone else from the meeting, yet in town they were often spit upon and called baby killers.

Quakers are by nature a pacifist group, but there is no requirement to be so. If you break Quaker “doctrine”, you are generally not judged by the congregation, because we believe that is God's business in the afterlife. We very much live our lives by what our conscience tells us to do, and except that service to the country is a personal decision and not dictated by faith. Penn believed in pacifism, and the tradition has continued, but many of us accept that it may not be the only way.

72 posted on 09/19/2008 7:31:09 PM PDT by Woodman ("One of the most striking differences between a cat and a lie is that a cat has only nine lives." PW)
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