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Judge says McCain is a 'natural born citizen'
AP ^ | 09/18/2008 | AP

Posted on 09/18/2008 5:41:11 PM PDT by Brytani

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To: Regulator
I always thought that a big reason for the "natural born citizen" requirement was to keep Alexander Hamilton out of the Presidency. He was a fan of strong central gov't to the point of possibly being a monarchist.

Born in Bermuda, I think.
21 posted on 09/18/2008 6:21:50 PM PDT by atomicweeder
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To: Brytani

At the time of McCain’s birth, the Canal Zone was sovereign US territory. If you committed a crime in the Canal Zone, under whose laws would you be tried? You would be tried under US law, in a US court.


22 posted on 09/18/2008 6:23:28 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." -- George Orwell)
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To: castowell

Nope, Obama will not be the next in court as the Judge cleverly set a prescient today when he ruled “the plaintiff, Markham Robinson, chairman of the American Independent Party, had no standing to file the lawsuit because he is not a candidate for president”.

So unless McCain files against Obama, I read it that Obama can run as a non citizen.
WOW the law is just not right.


23 posted on 09/18/2008 6:27:54 PM PDT by blueyon (Every one should get their 15 mins under the bus)
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How can this even be a question?


24 posted on 09/18/2008 6:38:11 PM PDT by ThreePuttinDude () ......Pelosi + Reid = $ 4.00 per gallon......()
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To: Brytani
"Highly Probable" or the difference between 0 and near 0.

Nano times aka end times reductionism. Lottery Jackpot, stellar parallax and so on.

Begin here:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22+stellar+parallax+hoax%22

25 posted on 09/18/2008 6:46:34 PM PDT by VlPu
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

“Since The Canal Zone was part of the US at the time...McCain qualifies for the Presidency”

He was born less than 1 mile outside the canal zone, at colon hospital, rep. of panama, unfortunately. Coco Solo hospital wasn’t built for another 4 years.


26 posted on 09/18/2008 6:58:07 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: PapaBear3625

true, but he wasn’t born in the CZ, but across the street, in Panama.


27 posted on 09/18/2008 6:59:25 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: Brytani; null and void

Thank you sir for beating back half the argument against investigating BHO for the same thing.
Can we put this to rest null and find out who Barry Soetoro is?


28 posted on 09/18/2008 7:02:03 PM PDT by JerseyDvl (What do Obama and Osama have in common?-They both have friends who bombed the Pentagon! - Bill Ayers)
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To: Brytani

Tomorrow: Federal judge rules that that messianic drug experimenting dieties are natural born citizens.


29 posted on 09/18/2008 7:07:36 PM PDT by omega4179 ("John McCain has not... talked about... My muslim faith")
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To: Repeal 16-17

“Now for a ruling on the Liberal Messiah.”

October?


30 posted on 09/18/2008 7:07:51 PM PDT by Canedawg (Sarah Palin Rocks. McCain-Palin '08)
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To: atomicweeder

“I always thought that a big reason for the “natural born citizen” requirement was to keep Alexander Hamilton out of the Presidency. He was a fan of strong central gov’t to the point of possibly being a monarchist.”

This is correct.


31 posted on 09/18/2008 7:08:12 PM PDT by Jacob Morgan
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To: Brytani

bump


32 posted on 09/18/2008 7:26:48 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: JEH_Boston

It’s not my area of expertise, but a couple of points:

The SF Court seemes to have ruled on the main issue, and did not dismiss the case based on lack of standing. So, the ‘standing issue’ part of the decision would be appear to be dicta.

Not only is dicta not binding, but the SF court’s decision is not binding on the Philly court.

Of course, it may be that the judge’s dicta was correct, in which case lack of standing may be grounds to dismiss Berg’s suit if the legal reasoning is sound, and the applicable law specifies that only the opponent may file such a suit.


33 posted on 09/18/2008 7:34:57 PM PDT by Canedawg (Sarah Palin Rocks. McCain-Palin '08)
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To: castowell

On Obama....Isn’t someone challenging his claim to citizenship? .....somewhere?.....if not, shouldn’t someone do so????.....somewhere?.....Sometime?


34 posted on 09/18/2008 7:50:34 PM PDT by Postman
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To: dodger

“All this was perhaps the silliest diversion of the campaign.”

At least on Free Republic it has been.


35 posted on 09/18/2008 8:05:52 PM PDT by WOSG (Change America needs: Dump the Pelosi Democrat Congress!!!)
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To: atomicweeder
I always thought that a big reason for the "natural born citizen" requirement was to keep Alexander Hamilton out of the Presidency. He was a fan of strong central gov't to the point of possibly being a monarchist.
Born in Bermuda, I think.

Didn't matter where he was born. He was grandfathered in by being a US citizen when the constitution was adopted

No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

36 posted on 09/18/2008 8:39:51 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Here to help)
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To: VlPu
"Highly Probable" or the difference between 0 and near 0.

No it's a legal distinction. A court can only rule on matters brought before it. If he is ruling that a matter cannot be brought before the court, he cannot also give a definite ruling on the matter.

37 posted on 09/18/2008 8:43:52 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Here to help)
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To: castowell

Occidental College? Who knew.

So this summer he was the Occidental Tourist?


38 posted on 09/18/2008 8:55:33 PM PDT by littlehouse36 (Baghdad, meet Chicago.)
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To: Regulator

I had the understanding that if a person is born outside of the US because one or more parent is serving in the military and assigned overseas, it is no different than being born on American soil.

The Panama Canal Zone, at the time McCain was born was considered to be a military base - making it American soil.

Personally, I find it ridiculous that this suit was even brought in the first place.


39 posted on 09/18/2008 9:58:20 PM PDT by Brytani ("Proud Member of the Lipstick Rebellion - McCain/Palin 2008)
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To: Canedawg

Thanks!


40 posted on 09/18/2008 10:07:41 PM PDT by JEH_Boston (There's a landslide coming.....)
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