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Texas High School Student Told Rosary Is 'Gang Symbol'
FOX News.com ^ | September 16, 2008

Posted on 09/16/2008 7:36:27 AM PDT by Kaslin

A Texas teen claims she is forbidden from wearing a rosary around her neck in school because the prayer beads are a gang symbol, MyFOXDFW.com reported.

Tabitha Ruiz was stopped by security guards at Seagoville High School in Dallas last week and told to take off the silver and ruby beaded rosary, a gift from her mother. On Monday, the same thing happened when she again came to the school wearing the beads.

"I went to school, walked through the metal detectors and they told me to take it off," the teen told MyFOXDFW.com. "I asked them why and they said because it's gang-related."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Texas
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To: AnAmericanMother

She was young, she was fair, she was new, she was nice,
She was ?, she was sweet seventeen.

He was old, he was vile, and no stranger to vice,
He was bad, he was base, he was mean.

He had slyly enviegled her up, to his flat,
To see his collection of stamps (all unperforated),

And he said, as he hastily put out the cat, the wine, his cigar, and the lamps,

“Have some madeira, m’dear, it’s ever so much nicer than beer.

And from there on, I can’t remember the lyrics well enough to write them down. :D


61 posted on 09/16/2008 9:55:08 PM PDT by Judith Anne
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To: AnAmericanMother

John Donne

74. “Batter my heart, three person’d God; for, you”

BATTER my heart, three person’d God; for, you
As yet but knocke, breathe, shine, and seeke to mend;
That I may rise, and stand, o’erthrow mee,’and bend
Your force, to breake, blowe, burn and make me new.
I, like an usurpt towne, to’another due, 5
Labour to’admit you, but Oh, to no end,
Reason your viceroy in mee, mee should defend,
But is captiv’d, and proves weake or untrue.
Yet dearely’I love you,’and would be loved faine,
But am betroth’d unto your enemie: 10
Divorce mee,’untie, or breake that knot againe;
Take mee to you, imprison mee, for I
Except you’enthrall mee, never shall be free,
Nor ever chast, except you ravish mee.


62 posted on 09/16/2008 10:01:06 PM PDT by Judith Anne
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John Donne

75. “Show me deare Christ, thy spouse, so bright and clear”

SHOW me deare Christ, thy spouse, so bright and clear.
What! is it She, which on the other shore
Goes richly painted? or which rob’d and tore
Laments and mournes in Germany and here?
Sleepes she a thousand, then peepes up one yeare? 5
Is she selfe truth and errs? now new, now outwore?
Doth she, and did she, and shall she evermore
On one, on seaven, or on no hill appeare?
Dwells she with us, or like adventuring knights
First travaile we to seeke and then make Love? 10
Betray kind husband thy spouse to our sights
And let myne amorous soule court thy mild Dove,
Who is most trew, and pleasing to thee, then
When she’is embrac’d and open to most men.


63 posted on 09/16/2008 10:05:27 PM PDT by Judith Anne
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John Donne

76. Goodfriday, 1613. Riding Westward

LET mans Soule be a Spheare, and then, in this,
The intelligence that moves, devotion is,
And as the other Spheares, by being growne
Subject to forraigne motions, lose their owne,
And being by others hurried every day, 5
Scarce in a yeare their naturall forme obey:
Pleasure or business, so, our Soules admit
For their first mover, and are whirld by it.
Hence is’t, that I am carryed towards the West
This day, when my Soules forme bends toward the East. 10
There I should see a Sunne, by rising set,
And by that setting endlesse day beget;
But that Christ on this Crosse, did rise and fall,
Sinne had eternally benighted all.
Yet dare I’almost be glad, I do not see 15
That spectacle of too much weight for mee.
Who sees Gods face, that is selfe life, must dye;
What a death were it then to see God dye?
It made his owne Lieutenant Nature shrinke,
It made his footstoole crack, and the Sunne winke. 20
Could I behold those hands which span the Poles,
And turne all spheares at once, peirc’d with those holes?
Could I behold that endlesse height which is
Zenith to us, and our Antipodes,
Humbled below us? or that blood which is 25
The seat of all our Soules, if not of his,
Made durt of dust, or that flesh which was worne
By God, for his apparell, rag’d, and torne?
If on these things I durst not looke, durst I
Upon his miserable mother cast mine eye, 30
Who was Gods partner here, and furnish’d thus
Halfe of that Sacrifice, which ransom’d us?
Though these things, as I ride, be from mine eye,
They’are present yet unto my memory,
For that looks towards them; and thou look’st towards mee, 35
O Saviour, as thou hang’st upon the tree;
I turne my backe to thee, but to receive
Corrections, till thy mercies bid thee leave.
O thinke mee worth thine anger, punish mee,
Burne off my rusts, and my deformity, 40
Restore thine Image, so much, by thy grace,
That thou may’st know mee, and I’ll turne my face.


64 posted on 09/16/2008 10:10:04 PM PDT by Judith Anne
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To: gura

Ms. Anthony is not what I would call a GOOD Catholic!


65 posted on 09/16/2008 10:17:14 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (DEATH TO PUTIN!)
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To: pray4liberty
When the bishops are wrong, we must appeal through the appropriate channels.

But we are nonetheless bound to obey the Church. And the Church has declared the visions inauthentic, and so it stands.

And it's not just a question of obedience -- the folks connected with Bayside are promulgating all sorts of nonsense, to-wit:

The "messages" and other related propaganda contain statements which, among other things, are contrary to the teachings of the Catholic Church, undermine the legitimate authority of bishops and councils and instill doubts in the minds of the faithful, for example, by claiming that, for years, an "imposter (sic) Pope" governed the Catholic Church in place of Paul VI.

I'm big on obedience, because I used to be an Episcopalian and I've seen where disobedience takes you.

66 posted on 09/17/2008 5:48:49 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse (TTGC Ladies Auxiliary, recess appointment))
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To: Judith Anne
Holy Sonnet No. VII

At the round earth's imagined corners
blow your trumpets, angels
and arise from death
you numberless infinities of souls
and to your scattered bodies go!

All whom the flood did and fire shall overthrow
All whom war, death, age, agues, tyrannies,
despair, law, chance hath slain;
And you whose eyes shall behold God
And never taste death's woe,

But let them sleep, Lord, and me mourn a space,
For, if above all these my sins abound,
'Tis late to ask abundance of Thy grace
When we are there.

Here on this lowly ground,
Teach me how to repent, for that's as good
As if Thoud'st sealed my pardon with
Thy blood.


67 posted on 09/17/2008 5:51:07 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse (TTGC Ladies Auxiliary, recess appointment))
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To: Judith Anne
Have Some Madeira, M'Dear
68 posted on 09/17/2008 5:53:32 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse (TTGC Ladies Auxiliary, recess appointment))
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To: thefrankbaum
How interesting, I didn't know that. I always thought they were so beautiful and as a young child wanted to wear one but was told most forcefully that it wasn’t proper.
69 posted on 09/17/2008 6:01:10 AM PDT by pepperdog (The world has gone crazy.)
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To: Mad Dawg
It wasn't Christopher Wordsworth, it was William, just exactly like his ggg uncle the poet . . . . He was active in the 40s, but I don't know much about him except that he composed some really good stuff.

He set "At the round earth's imagined corners", "Thou hast made me, and shall Thy work decay?", "Batter my heart", and "Death be not proud" for contralto/bass and piano. They are a bit difficult but incredibly beautiful, and I can't find them anywhere on line - published by Alfred Lengnick & Co. in South Croydon of all places. I have a hard copy on the piano --

Re the Madeira -- collectors always keep the stuff too long. That's certainly not true here . . . we had four bottles of Margaux '82 and it's all gone, and very much enjoyed. It could have lasted another 25 years easy, but then we've had the pleasure of drinking it and can brag about it indefinitely.

70 posted on 09/17/2008 6:07:53 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse (TTGC Ladies Auxiliary, recess appointment))
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To: pepperdog
A lot of people don't - as evidenced by this thread. It is a little sad, since so much of the Catholic culture in this country was brought over by the Irish and it has become the dominant Catholic culture. Those cultures - Italian, Latin American, Polish - where it has always been proper to visibily celebrate your Faith have such a rich tapestry that we, as American Catholics, miss out on unless we live in a highly ethnic area. Processionals through the streets, dancing, the Feast of the Seven Fishes (one of my favorite) - our Catholic faith should be visible and vibrant!

Okay, I'll get off my soapbox now. :-)

71 posted on 09/17/2008 6:12:20 AM PDT by thefrankbaum (Ad maiorem Dei gloriam)
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To: pray4liberty
Btw, you can find FREE scapulars, Miraculous Medals, and rosaries here. And also here.
72 posted on 09/17/2008 6:21:02 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse (TTGC Ladies Auxiliary, recess appointment))
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To: thefrankbaum
The Anglo-Irish crowd are just a little more upright and uptight than the Latins . . . and I say that as the 100% descendant of various British Isles types . . . .

It's funny who you meet, though, when you're wearing your Miraculous Medal!

(I can't get any of my Rosaries over my head anyway . . . either I have small Rosaries or my head is swelled . . . or a little of both . . . . )

73 posted on 09/17/2008 6:24:05 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse (TTGC Ladies Auxiliary, recess appointment))
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To: thefrankbaum
The 7 fishes is Christmas Eve, isn't it?

I'm all for seafood! (but you can have all the calamari . . . )

74 posted on 09/17/2008 6:25:26 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse (TTGC Ladies Auxiliary, recess appointment))
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To: AnAmericanMother
Hah! Your head can't be that swelled - I'm sure all those protties fighting and scrapping on the RF keep things in check.

Yeah, the Anglo-Irish types are a little uptight - it is just frustrating to see all the "never wear a rosary!" posts. Like I said, cultural imperialism :-P

And I will absolutely take the calamari, the scrod, the muscles, and whatever else you can get. Christmas Eve, eating a smorgasbord of seafood, most of it fried? And you wonder why we sleep in Christmas morning!

75 posted on 09/17/2008 6:35:15 AM PDT by thefrankbaum (Ad maiorem Dei gloriam)
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To: AnAmericanMother

I should know by now that everything can be found on YouTube, but thank you for the link! It’s wonderful. :D I immediately passed it on to my sibs.


76 posted on 09/17/2008 9:04:50 AM PDT by Judith Anne
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To: Judith Anne
I can't find the Wordsworth "Four Sacred Sonnets" on YouTube!!!

(Of course, finding the Scottish composer William Wordsworth in the midst of tens of thousands of embarassingly bad recordings of readings of the English poet William Wordsworth is a bit of a problem!)

77 posted on 09/17/2008 9:08:40 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse (TTGC Ladies Auxiliary, recess appointment))
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To: AnAmericanMother

Okay, ALMOST everything. :D

I have to go to the office today. I’m stalling...


78 posted on 09/17/2008 9:15:16 AM PDT by Judith Anne
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To: Judith Anne
You should like this then:

Thomas Tallis: "O Nata Lux"

We sang it Sunday, folks seemed to like it (what sound like mistakes at the end of the first section - and again at the end of the second section - are deliberate cross-relations. Drive you nuts.)

We also sang this one, for offertory:

Ludovic Viadana: "Exultate, Justi"

They mess with the tempo more than we do. We sing the first and last parts more slowly, then the middle section at a good clip, but with no rubato anywhere. Our choirmaster maintains that Renaissance motets should have an internal pulse that does not vary!

79 posted on 09/17/2008 12:31:47 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse (TTGC Ladies Auxiliary, recess appointment))
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To: AnAmericanMother
All I did is buy some sacramentals from them and somehow I'm now disobedient to the Church? Thank God this is America, where we are free to believe at all.

According to their site, the Brooklyn Diocese never investigated them, so to be honest I don't know who is telling the truth--but that comes out with the passage of time anyway.

All that matters to me is that Jesus is the Way, the Truth and the Life. In the final analysis, we will be judged on how well we obeyed Him.

80 posted on 09/17/2008 8:31:14 PM PDT by pray4liberty (It's the smile that keeps me out of trouble.)
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