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1 posted on 09/15/2008 7:25:54 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter
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2 posted on 09/15/2008 7:26:39 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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IF this is accurate, it sounds like Musharraf’s departure has let control of the military slide into more adversarial forces.

Why on earth did the US ever publicly support his ouster?


3 posted on 09/15/2008 7:29:31 AM PDT by WoofDog123
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A US military incursion into the Taliban-controlled tribal agency of South Waziristan was aborted after Pakistani troops opened fire on the force, reports from Pakistan indicate.

Sounds like it's time to start shooting anything that moves up in that area.

8 posted on 09/15/2008 7:37:25 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (McCain/Palin 2008 : Palin the Paladin 2012)
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Alrighty then. Time to push the Afghan border to the east a little bit.

9 posted on 09/15/2008 7:37:38 AM PDT by DogBarkTree (That sharp pain to the LibRat's groin is called the Palin Effect.)
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This whole U.S. unauthorized incursion into Pakistan just doesn't add up to me.

First, there is the real Pakistan dependence on American military aid and technical and logistic support for their fleet of F-16's. They really cannot afford to get us really mad at them without the risk of that aid and support disappearing. OTOH, there is the political environment in Pakistan which certainly has a large pro-Taliban, pro-Al-Qaeda, anti-American element. This would lead one to speculate that the Pakistani's have given Bush an OK privately that they are politically unable to give him publicly. Until we actually see some real damage done to American forces by the Pakistani military that are confirmed by the U.S. I will subscribe to that theory.

But there is the wild card factor of Bush wanting to get Bin Laden before he leaves office. Could we just be seeing a personal vendetta combined with pretty good intelligence on the whereabouts of Bin Laden combining to yield a pull-out-the-stops effort to take down the Al-Qaeda leadership. And this with or without the OK from Pakistan. I would give this theory some credibility as well.

13 posted on 09/15/2008 7:48:47 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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we should send some attack choppers into our State Department

I wish we could elect someone with enough stones to go in and clean house

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15 posted on 09/15/2008 7:53:24 AM PDT by Elle Bee
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we should send some attack choppers into our State Department

I wish we could elect someone with enough stones to go in and clean house

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16 posted on 09/15/2008 7:53:39 AM PDT by Elle Bee
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The new president is just as sympathetic to our security as Musharraf was. Except this time we might get what we pay for. Instead of giving Pakistan 10 billion a year to let AQ set up in the tribal areas, we might just get the green light to go after them


20 posted on 09/15/2008 8:42:25 AM PDT by buckeye12
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According to the "Bush Doctrine" (Gibson) we should invade.

According to the "Obama Doctrine" porous borders aren't such a bad thing. Foreign (US) cultural influence (whoop *ss) will result in great diversity.

21 posted on 09/15/2008 9:12:04 AM PDT by nonsporting
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A US military incursion into the Taliban-controlled tribal agency of South Waziristan was aborted after Pakistani troops opened fire on the force, reports from Pakistan indicate.

How convenient! Brave tales of Pakistani military courage and skill in driving out the American interlopers! You couldn't have made up a better story if you tried.

On second thought, they did make up this story. It's a fairy tale for domestic consumption. Nothing more.

26 posted on 09/15/2008 11:13:25 AM PDT by Steel Wolf ("We have your test results, Mr Obama. You have ...Sarahnoia. 2 months, tops, and you're a goner....")
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