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That you think you are the majority is an example of your hubris. You are not the majority, you are a small minority that yells loud. You're not even a majority on FR.

Don't make the mistake of believing you represent everyone who supports sane and reasonable immigration laws and border enforcement. Most of the people on FR support these issues but also see the inconsistency in supporting LEO’s who abused their authority, lie and tried to cover up their misdeeds.

The extreme border security crowd want to see Ramos and Compean pardoned not because they want to see them free and home with their children, they want the actions they took that afternoon given a stamp of approval. In other words, they would allow the most extreme abuse of authority and of civilian rights by their governments armed agents as long as it pushes their agenda a few yards down the field.

That isn't conservatism, it's support for police state thuggery and murder. This time you may accept and absolve it because it isn't your ox getting gored. But that's the problem with allowing the government that kind of ability...next time it may be you, or a relative or friend that is getting chased down and shot.

There can be no equivocation on this point by true conservatives. Defense may go lax because this time it was only an illegal alien drug mule, but when we vigorously defend the basic civilian rights of the least of us, we are protecting them for all of us.

BTW - The attempts by those on the other side of this issue to brand opponents as liberals, DU’ers, Sutton lovers, etc., is despicable and pathetic. It only demonstrates the weakness of your arguments and how extreme you are in your beliefs. It makes me even more resolved in my own belief that you must b excised from the conservative community.

Amen, FRiend!

...they would allow the most extreme abuse of authority and of civilian rights by their governments armed agents as long as it pushes their agenda a few yards down the field.

What a bunch of B.S.

Abuse of authority is exactly why folks are outraged -- abuse by Sutton, Kanof, and the DOJ thugs.

You and your buddy DC Patriot calling everyone bigots does nothing to advance your cause.

It makes me even more resolved in my own belief that you must b excised from the conservative community.

Your a coward BobJ! you think you own FR? Take a hike! You don't decide who stays and goes in the conservative community. You suffering from Barrack disease? Starting to sound like a lib to me with a screed like that. Thanks for identifying yourself.

I'd be rethinking my words to Aunt B if I were in your shoes. Never too late to apologize, but your inaction marks you for who you are. I know the lady, and she is as solid as they get, more so than you'll ever be.

It makes me even more resolved in my own belief that you must b excised from the conservative community.

This should be good. How exactly do you plan on carrying out this "excise"?

AuntB, I think it is wrong to suggest Bob J is a DU person. His previous posts on other threads show that he thinks that that at one point, Ramos, after hearing so many shots fired, may have honestly believed that he was walking into a deadly firefight.

Bob J, I think your “bigots in a fig leaf” is inappropriate in this thread, and that is what angered AuntB. I do not believe that she is a bigot. I’ll bet there are a few real bigots on FR, but there are also some advocates of open borders here who continue to object to any reasonable efforts to control immigration.

I believe there are arguments for conviction, but I also have some doubts about what actually happened in Fabens. The jury came closer to being deadlocked than some here believe.

I hope both sides will step back and think before posting.