Posted on 09/12/2008 6:00:19 AM PDT by kellynla
EL PASO, Texas — Two former Border Patrol agents convicted of shooting a drug smuggler and trying to cover it up have been denied a request for a new hearing.
The 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in New Orleans denied the request by Ignacio Ramos and Jose Alonso Compean on Wednesday. The same court upheld the men's convictions in July.
No reason was given for the Wednesday's denial.
Ramos and Compean are each serving sentences of more than 10 years for shooting Osvaldo Aldrete Davila in the buttocks while he was fleeing from an abandoned marijuana load in 2005.
Aldrete was sentenced to 9 1/2 years in prison for his role in two seperate smuggling efforts later that same year.
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Provide them. I'm quite interested in where it states that illegal aliens have the right to keep and bear arms. I'm also interested in where the US Constitutions gives illegal aliens the right to vote in our elections.
You were done over 800 posts ago.
Ya know I just bought a gun. According to the Federal Form 4473, being an illegal alien disqualifies one from purchasing or owning a firearm within the US. So, you might understand why it is that I’m skeptical of your assertion that illegal aliens have the contitutional right to keep and bear arms.
Sure!
Ramos and Compean, being convicted felons, can no longer vote or own firearms. Are they now illegal aliens also?
#154--the Constitution does not apply, and
#183--the Fourth Amendment does not apply.
There's a lot of that going around in the Border Patrol, apparently. Say, when you got your badge, did you swear to uphold the law or anything like that? Or are you (constitutionally) entitled to make it up as you go along if the subject is an illegal alien?
Actrually there is a lot of incompetence in the Border Patrol, meted out by people just like you. I bet you didn’t kow that, you know, that we have people like you who sympathize with criminals.
Hey, I completely sympathize with Ramos!
Juarez and Vasquez.
Juarez testimony
20 Were you making a decision to go help Compean here, or 21 go back to the van? Were those basically your two options? 22 A. The -- not the option that he was running. In my mind, he 23 had already made it to Mexico. 24 Q. Okay. And you thought he had made it to Mexico because 25 why? David A. Perez, CSR, RPR Juarez - Cross by Ms. Stillinger 82 1 A. He was right there at the canal. 2 Q. But Agent Compean is up there, right? 3 A. Yes. 4 Q. Okay. And don't you think Agent Compean is going to try to 5 arrest this guy? 6 A. It's not the first time that -- you know, like you just 7 want to make sure that person makes it back south. 8 Q. Okay. You're saying you want to make sure he makes it back 9 south, that he doesn't stay in our country, right? 10 A. Just to make sure. 11 Q. Okay. Meaning you wouldn't just walk away and leave him 12 there. You would make sure that you push him back to Mexico, 13 basically, right? 14 A. Yes. 15 Q. Okay. Well, under these circumstances, though, where 16 Compean has called out potential narcotics, the guy has led you 17 on a pursuit, don't you think you would want to detain the 18 person to investigate? 19 A. Not really. 20 Q. Okay. You wouldn't want to? 21 A. Right. 22 Q. And why is that? 23 A. Like I said, he was almost in Mexico. Not only he was in 24 the United States, but going that far back, he almost made it.
LOL!
I thought Gary Weiser was just a hack lawyer that Juarez stumbled across in the phone book. If you remember he was the lawyer present in September when Juarez changed his story for the umpteenth time and suddenly remembered seeing Compean.
Talking about the lawyer that Kanof retained for some legal question...
Given that Gary Weiser represented Victor Bieganowski in this case, I don’t think that it could have occurred here. Gary Weiser was formerly an El Paso Assistant District Attorney and also represented one of the Border Patrol agents who turned on Ramos and Compean, Juarez.
And this is what happened in Sept when Weiser was present with Juarez.
23 BY MR. ANTCLIFF: 24 Q. You didn't give a written statement in September when you 25 met with the Government. Is that right? David A. Perez, CSR, RPR Juarez - Cross by Mr. Antcliff 115 1 A. That's correct. 2 Q. Okay. Everything you told them that day they wrote down, 3 but you didn't? 4 A. Yes, sir. 5 Q. That's different from the first two statements you gave 6 where you wrote everything down? 7 A. Yes. ... ... 8 BY MR. ANTCLIFF: 9 Q. When you met with Mr. Weiser before you talked to the 10 Government on the 26th, he told you after you told him this new 11 story, he didn't believe you, didn't he? 12 A. He told me you need to come to my office. 13 Q. Listen to my question, please. When you told him this new 14 story, and that were you were going to tell the Government, he 15 said he didn't believe you, didn't? 16 A. He didn't say -- he said you will get indicted. 17 Q. Okay. 18 MR. ANTCLIFF: Pass the witness. 19 REDIRECT EXAMINATION 20 BY MR. GONZALEZ: 21 Q. Who threatened to indict you, Mr. Weiser? 22 A. No. 23 Q. Who? 24 A. He said you need to come see me. 25 Q. Mr. Weiser told you you need to see him and tell him David A. Perez, CSR, RPR Juarez - Redirect by Mr. Gonzalez 179 1 everything that happened? 2 A. Yes. 3 Q. And that's what you did? 4 A. Yes. 5 Q. Thank you. 6 MS. STILLINGER: No further questions. 7 MR. GONZALEZ: Pass the witness. 8 RECROSS-EXAMINATION 9 BY MR. ANTCLIFF: 10 Q. The threat to indict you came from the Government. Is that 11 right? 12 A. Yes.
Never try to teach a pig to sing. You will waste your time and annoy the pig. BobJ! Drop the baton, step away from the lec(in)tern... heh, heh,heh. Long time no see. How are things?
Sorry for the delayed response—I’ve been out of town.
FYI—suebob and I discovered the Weiser/Kanof connection after a newbie post back in March 2007
The post referenced the Bieganowski case and gave the website www.doctorbfiles.com. After going to that website and sifting through some of the PDF files, I found Weiser’s name — and recognized it as the same name that Oscar Juarez mentioned in his testimony.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1774700/posts?page=56#56
Heheh...I know.
Doing good, how about you?
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