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Border Agents Who Shot Smuggler Denied Appeal (Ramos & Compean)
newsmax.com ^ | September 11, 2008 | staff

Posted on 09/12/2008 6:00:19 AM PDT by kellynla

EL PASO, Texas — Two former Border Patrol agents convicted of shooting a drug smuggler and trying to cover it up have been denied a request for a new hearing.

The 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in New Orleans denied the request by Ignacio Ramos and Jose Alonso Compean on Wednesday. The same court upheld the men's convictions in July.

No reason was given for the Wednesday's denial.

Ramos and Compean are each serving sentences of more than 10 years for shooting Osvaldo Aldrete Davila in the buttocks while he was fleeing from an abandoned marijuana load in 2005.

Aldrete was sentenced to 9 1/2 years in prison for his role in two seperate smuggling efforts later that same year.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: abadshoot; aliens; appeal; badshoot; borderpatrol; compean; dirtycops; immigrantlist; injustice; jackbootcrime; jackbooterslobby; johnnysutton; justice; openborderslobby; ramos; ramoscompean; travesty
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To: Bob J
Now I’m back to thinking you’re a buffoon.

So anyone who disagrees with you is a buffoon? Or you just like name calling?

I guess that's a whole lot easier than defending or supporting your allegations, huh? (5th time is a charm?)

When you call others here "bigots," exactly what are you accusing them of being biggoted about?


801 posted on 09/18/2008 2:23:35 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Bob J
The semantic gymnastics you all play astounds me. But all it does is point up the weakness of your arguments because that's all you got.

You are wrong yet again.

802 posted on 09/18/2008 2:23:35 PM PDT by Ajnin (Neca Eos Omnes. Deus Suos Agnoset.)
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To: calcowgirl

“When it goes beyond opinion and is overly offensive, I hit abuse and let the mods decide.”

Running to the mods because you find yourself overmatched and outmanuevered.

Why am I not surprised?

What I find inconsistent is how on one hand you prefer all the evidence be heard without it being the “second guessed by judges and prosecutors”. Yet here when you get your toes toasted a little bit you’re running off to the the FR “judges” whining and complaining like a weenie.

You’re a piece of work CCG.


803 posted on 09/18/2008 2:28:02 PM PDT by Bob J (For every 1000 hacking at the branches of evil, one strikes at it's root.)
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To: AndrewC

“I followed instructions. Davila did not.”

When did one of the guards take a swing at your head with the butt of their shotgun?


804 posted on 09/18/2008 2:29:13 PM PDT by Bob J (For every 1000 hacking at the branches of evil, one strikes at it's root.)
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To: calcowgirl

“So anyone who disagrees with you is a buffoon?”

No people who are buffoons are buffoons.


805 posted on 09/18/2008 2:31:06 PM PDT by Bob J (For every 1000 hacking at the branches of evil, one strikes at it's root.)
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To: Bob J
I'm sorry, what does "silly and childish" have to do with being "gay"?

"That is so gay" does not mean "gay" as in "happy" or "gay" as in "homosexual."
If you aren't familiar with the very common phrase, you need to get out more.

You're a poser calcowgirl, you don't have the street cred to tie my shoes. I'd say more but to be honest you're not worth the effort.

ROFL! I'll take that as a badge of honor. Thanks!

I'll reserve my really good stuff for the first team, not the back benchers.

"really good stuff ".... No problem. I don't think I'll be missing much.

806 posted on 09/18/2008 2:32:36 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Bob J; Ajnin
When did one of the guards take a swing at your head with the butt of their shotgun?

He didn't because I followed instructions. Kanof and Gonzalez tacitly admitted that physical force was appropriate when they introduced the baton or "pepper spray". Hitting someone or spraying them when not authorized would constitute assault. In fact Compean would have been performing assault by merely swinging and missing with the shotgun had he done so without cause. He was not charged with that.

Ajnin can verify or contradict me on that.

807 posted on 09/18/2008 2:36:24 PM PDT by AndrewC
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To: calcowgirl

“”That is so gay” does not mean “gay” as in “happy” or “gay” as in “homosexual.” If you aren’t familiar with the very common phrase, you need to get out more.’

Oh I’ve heard the phrase, but when it was used it was always in a “happy” or “homosexual” reference.

Tell me CCG, what did you mean? Educate all of us.


808 posted on 09/18/2008 2:36:46 PM PDT by Bob J (For every 1000 hacking at the branches of evil, one strikes at it's root.)
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To: calcowgirl

“ROFL! I’ll take that as a badge of honor. Thanks!”

You would since you have so few badges of honor” to point to in your life.

“No problem. I don’t think I’ll be missing much.”

Actually you are because my good stuff is poetry in motion.


809 posted on 09/18/2008 2:38:41 PM PDT by Bob J (For every 1000 hacking at the branches of evil, one strikes at it's root.)
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To: Bob J

Bob, that picture is classic.
And you made the evening news!

I have such respect for FReepers who have actually met other FReepers who can vouch for them.
Those who have never gone toe to toe with Code Pinkos or the rabid lefties, in person, can’t completely appreciate the level of sheer hatred they spew.


810 posted on 09/18/2008 2:41:22 PM PDT by b9 ("Maybe you should revisit your assumption..." ~ Sarah Palin)
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To: Bob J
Running to the mods because you find yourself overmatched and outmanuevered. Why am I not surprised?

How dishonest can you get? I'm not speaking of posters that I may banter with, I'm perfectly capable of handling that without intervention.

I was speaking of those who post about intentionally killing illegals, or the like. YOU were the one that suggested those folks should be called out. I prefer not to give them any importance and let the mods handle it. Did you forget your own comment?

Bob J: If possible, when you see this stuff make and effort to take it down
THAT is what I leave to the mods.

Yet here when you get your toes toasted a little bit you’re running off to the the FR “judges” whining and complaining like a weenie.

Another dishonest representation of what I posted. Pinocchio is a fitting image for you, afterall.

You’re a piece of work CCG.

I'm honest and direct, something you have a real problem with.

811 posted on 09/18/2008 2:42:10 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: AndrewC
No. I'm just wondering (despite your ability to post what everyone's written in pretty colors) whether you truly do not remember other things that you've read, or you're just playing games.

As far as I can tell, you choose what you decide to remember and what you decide to forget. In this case, you're hoping that I'll make some sort of an error that you can then pounce upon. It's a peculiar way to debate people.

812 posted on 09/18/2008 2:42:59 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: AndrewC

“Hitting someone or spraying them when not authorized would constitute assault. In fact Compean would have been performing assault by merely swinging and missing with the shotgun had he done so without cause. He was not charged with that.”

With all the charges already in front of R&C, that would have been a ten yerd penalty assessed against the prosecution for “piling on”.


813 posted on 09/18/2008 2:43:50 PM PDT by Bob J (For every 1000 hacking at the branches of evil, one strikes at it's root.)
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To: Bob J

When this thread hits 900, I’m outta’ here. We’re all just waving our [things] at each other.


814 posted on 09/18/2008 2:46:35 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: b9

Agreed. I’m proud of that moment as well as many others even more important.

What I don’t understand is the dismissiveness of these efforts from this new cadre of people on Free Republic. They don’t respect their go-before-ers, they show no respect for the “patron”.

Kids. What are you going to do?


815 posted on 09/18/2008 2:47:24 PM PDT by Bob J (For every 1000 hacking at the branches of evil, one strikes at it's root.)
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To: 1rudeboy; Ajnin
No. I'm just wondering (despite your ability to post what everyone's written in pretty colors) whether you truly do not remember other things that you've read, or you're just playing games

No games. I'm just telling you to do your own frickin work. You don't seem to understand that. But I repeat, do your own work and I suggest you do it right.

I also don't forget that you bawled about my post which had Ajnin's posts cited in it to show you that he did not state what you had accused him of. You chose to ignore it. Again, do your own work.

816 posted on 09/18/2008 2:48:24 PM PDT by AndrewC
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To: calcowgirl

“I was speaking of those who post about intentionally killing illegals, or the like.”

I’m sorry, I misinterpreted your comment, I apologize.

Congrats and good work on trying to keep FR “clean”!

;-].


817 posted on 09/18/2008 2:49:20 PM PDT by Bob J (For every 1000 hacking at the branches of evil, one strikes at it's root.)
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To: 1rudeboy

You’ll be back...

;-p


818 posted on 09/18/2008 2:50:52 PM PDT by Bob J (For every 1000 hacking at the branches of evil, one strikes at it's root.)
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To: AndrewC
Remind me. He was the guy who thought the fact that Ramos and Compean didn't file a written report actually proved something? Is that the argument that you accused me of repeatedly bringing-up? What did you just do?
819 posted on 09/18/2008 2:51:27 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Bob J

You really put yourself out there, Bob.
And without Secret Service! Have you ever been assaulted?
Costumes often invite cruel behavior. I’ve seen threads here testifying to obnoxious treatment, and not only by bratty children, but by rabid adults as well.


820 posted on 09/18/2008 2:52:49 PM PDT by b9 ("Maybe you should revisit your assumption..." ~ Sarah Palin)
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