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He (TigersEye) didn't say that of the 10% remainder, 8% are above retirement age. Three quarters of the 2% left choose to live in the back country where they aren't bothered by fools like us. In our hearts we know we're fighting for a lost cause but it's too painful to admit it so we refuse to lay down and die quietly. That's the way some of us are, too proud to give up the fight because that would mean our entire lives were wasted. Grasp whatever satisfaction you can from knowing that you were one of the few who truly loved America and what she once stood for.

You are exactly right, B4Ranch. I don't think of us as fools but we may be. Like you I couldn't just hide in the back woods to save my own skin while the Great Experiment was bulldozed into oblivion. Like joanie-f I rejoice in finding like-minded patriots and I'm excited by the idea that Sarah Palin may have real substance in that area. Even more so I like that she has re-infused enthusiasm in conservatives. Like Eternal Vigilance I am not happy with half-stepping consolations to the conservative view and I remain wary and unconvinced that the Republican Party will do any more than pander to it. Like hosepipe and Quix I have to keep checking myself to see if I'm succumbing to a personal desire and swallowing some tasty looking bait. Like Noumenon I see the march of history repeating itself in years of actions and inactions that set up certain inevitable consequences.

I think all of us see and feel all of those things and process and express them as our individual personalities and experiences lead us to. Are we fools railing against the prevailing wind who ought to hunker down and let it pass? I don't think so. The wind in that analogy is created by men so we are not helpless creatures merely subject to its coming and going. If other men created this ill left wind then we are equally endowed to create and direct political winds of our own. We can weigh the odds of success and let that determine whether to participate or not. Had our founding fathers done that there never would have been an America. Either the cause is worthy of risk and effort or it isn't. That is a decision of conscience. Beyond that; how to accomplish our aims will always draw many opinions until a clear path rises above the many. But if we all withdraw from the fight, whether from fear, disgust or impenetrable confusion, there will be no one offering an idea of what to do. No lieutenants left to raise the banner and lead the charge against the black tide of tyranny that IS advancing on us. Even those tucked "safely" in their off-grid hideaways.

Big talk but that's the only thing I can think of in response to the views expressed here. Views that were all well expressed and heartfelt IMO.

[ No lieutenants left to raise the banner and lead the charge against the black tide of tyranny that IS advancing on us. Even those tucked "safely" in their off-grid hideaways. ]

The eye of the tiger is always watching.. and taking names..

I think all of us see and feel all of those things and process and express them as our individual personalities and experiences lead us to. Are we fools railing against the prevailing wind who ought to hunker down and let it pass? I don't think so. The wind in that analogy is created by men so we are not helpless creatures merely subject to its coming and going. If other men created this ill left wind then we are equally endowed to create and direct political winds of our own. We can weigh the odds of success and let that determine whether to participate or not. Had our founding fathers done that there never would have been an America. Either the cause is worthy of risk and effort or it isn't. That is a decision of conscience. Beyond that; how to accomplish our aims will always draw many opinions until a clear path rises above the many. But if we all withdraw from the fight, whether from fear, disgust or impenetrable confusion, there will be no one offering an idea of what to do. No lieutenants left to raise the banner and lead the charge against the black tide of tyranny that IS advancing on us. Even those tucked "safely" in their off-grid hideaways.

As heartfelt and eloquent a description of where we stand as I have read in recent memory. I have it saved, and intend to share your inspiring message with others.

Thank you, and God's blessings to you, TigersEye.

~ joanie