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To: hosepipe
I often feel as you do. Your combination of hope and anger is shared by many genuine conservatives.

I wrote the following on another thread recently, as to how I am able to justify supporting the Republican ticket:

We may well be in for a tragic four years no matter who wins this election, unless McCain recognizes that it was the genuine gun-toting, church-going heart of the republican party that put him into office ... and that he owes them ... and that he had better make a sharp right turn if he expects not to lose their support during his term in office.

He did, after all, select one of them as his running mate. Neither you nor I is fool enough to believe he did that because he and Palin are kindred spirits/ideological soul-mates. He did that because he knew he couldn’t win without us. And he must know he will lose us, once again, if he returns to RINO business as usual.

At the same time, I am not, and never have been, a Pollyanna. If I were taking bets, I’d bet that Sarah Palin will wield only as much power in a McCain administration as she is able to demand. Significant power will not be delegated to her, but neither is she one who will be content with thumb-twiddling. And I’d also be willing to bet that, should McCain win, November 5th will not mark a right turn of any significance in his ideology.

With that said ...

As I see it we are faced with the election of Obama/Biden, which might well spell the end of freedom and sovereignty in America. It won’t take more than four years for that to occur under O/B.

Or we are faced with the election of McCain/Palin. That eventuality is entirely different than the election of McCain/AnyoneElse might have been.

As I have written on my blog countless times, I probably would have stayed home, or written in the name of Ronald Reagan in protest, on November 4th had I been faced with an Obama/Biden vs. McCain/AnyoneElse choice.

But what a difference two weeks can make.

Palin is a staunch right-wing ideologue. And an activist staunch right-wing ideologue – not simply a pundit/philosopher/orator. She has an extensive (considering the amount of time she has held office) list of resounding successes to show for her conservative activism. She’s a dying breed, for sure.

She will not allow herself to be a passive vice president. And she will make noise if she is ordered to assume that posture. And she will have every right to do so, because she will have played a pivotal (vast understatement) role in the election of John McCain.

John McCain is seventy-two years old. Sarah Palin is forty-four.

This no longer boils down to the quadrennial ‘voting for the lesser of two evils’ conundrum, which I have vowed never to be a party to again. For the first time in twenty-four years, we have a genuine conservative on the ballot. No, she is not in the top spot. But she is there. The Republican ticket contains a fighter who is willing ... in fact determined ... to reclaim America’s status as a ‘shining city on a hill’. And, no matter the odds against her succeeding, I’ll be damned if I won’t do everything within my power to provide her a chance to do so!

If she fails ... if she is prevented from making a difference ... it won’t be because I wasn’t willing to afford her the opportunity ... what I see as the last opportunity for a genuine conservative to reverse the course of our suicidal journey into oblivion.

~ joanie

17 posted on 09/12/2008 6:25:56 AM PDT by joanie-f (If you believe that God is your co-pilot, it might be time to switch seats ...)
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To: joanie-f
You see thru me like a pane of glass.. Thats o.k. I never lied very good.. My Momma always knew when I did.. I tried too BUT alas really sucked at lieing.. So I just am brutally honest.. Knowing, I will get caught anyway..

I suppose I will vote for McLaim even though I said I wouldn't.. My hope is that if Sara gets wind of any conniving by McLaim she will threaten to rat him out or even to RESIGN.. or BOTH.. Even though she might end up in FT Marcy Park.. with Park Rangers running the murder investigation like with Vince Foster.. you know investigating a murder on their bicycles, as they did..

True.. a Vice President can be sequestered from reality.. the reality of whats really going on.. but thats my hope.. AT least Sara Palin is for real.. I asked her if she was a RINO.. She said ... NO.. I believe her.. Especially after what she did In Juneau.. She when thru that place like a dose of Ex-Lax.. but still hasn't removed all the corrupted democrats.. Sequestering HER just might be a task the McLaim administration is not up too.. If she feels shes just window dressing she might get a bit upset.. LoL..

Consider the outcome of that senario.. Sara Palin RESIGNING in disgust.. On the otherhand maybe John McLaim got conservative religion.. {pause}...

NAH!.. but dreams can happen.. even miracles with proper prayer.. I'm praying for that girl.. Joan.. Cause no doubt in my mind she needs it.. Prayer for this election is needed too.. However I don't believe in miracles, I rely on them..

21 posted on 09/12/2008 6:52:59 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: joanie-f
Palin is a staunch right-wing ideologue. And an activist staunch right-wing ideologue – not simply a pundit/philosopher/orator. She has an extensive (considering the amount of time she has held office) list of resounding successes to show for her conservative activism. She’s a dying breed, for sure.

Sarah Palin has no conception of the true role of the executive, or the ways in which the judicial supremacist mindset is destroying the core of American principle and liberty. One of her first acts in office, which checked the legislative branch and empowered a tyrannical out-of-control judiciary which was laying claim to judicial, legislative and executive power, prove this, and her subsequent words in this regard confirm it.

This is no small thing, joanie. It's the exact same fallacy that lies at the root of the implementation of gay marriage, the stripping of the Ten Commandments from the public square, and the judicial murder of Terri Schindler Schiavo.

In the world she is helping to create, judicial oligarchs rule. Not We the People. Not God. Not the rule of law. In this world, the Constitution is a dead letter, and so is liberty.

23 posted on 09/12/2008 7:44:26 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Don't talk about God, Life, Liberty, Borders or the IRS, and you'll do fine in the McCain GOP)
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To: joanie-f
If I were taking bets, I’d bet that Sarah Palin will wield only as much power in a McCain administration as she is able to demand.

And, if I were taking bets, I repeat that I'd wager that should the McMaverick win, Sarah will resign in one, two years tops citing "family matters." This timetable will be greatly accelerated should Biden drop off the Dim ticket and Hillary actually accept the veep slot. (2nd choice for 2nd place???)

More popcorn, please...

103 posted on 09/13/2008 6:45:49 AM PDT by MaggieCarta (Originality is the art of concealing your sources.)
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To: joanie-f
Spot on!!!!

And we must not factor out God!!...My prayer is Sarah Palin will influence John McCain rather than the other way around.

I already see a more humanizing effect on McCain's daughter, Meghan and wife, Cindy.

I always thought of Cindy as the Ice Queen, but lately I think I'm seeing some genuine melting occur and a real person shining through.

118 posted on 09/13/2008 8:48:40 AM PDT by Guenevere
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