[LeGrande]

If we only consider the reasons that LeGrande gave -- the distance to the sun and the rotational rate of the earth -- the sun is exactly where it appears -- at least close enough for government work. In other words, if we consider only LeGrande's alleged causes of apparent angular displacement, then the sun's not displaced at all. It is slightly displaced for other reasons, but none of which are LeGrande's reasons.

Are you asserting that if you go out at Noon and point a transit directly at the center of the Suns light that the Sun is exactly where it appears to be i.e. in other words could you draw a straight line from the center of the earth through you to the center of the sun? Or in other words if you shot a rifle (that fired an instantaneous bullet) that it would hit the center of the Sun? Or would you have to lead the Sun a little to compensate for the fact that it took the light about 8.3 minutes to get from the Sun to your eyes?

Do you understand that you are under constant acceleration?

[mrjesse]

Are you asserting that if you go out at Noon and point a transit directly at the center of the Suns light that the Sun is exactly where it appears to be i.e. in other words could you draw a straight line from the center of the earth through you to the center of the sun? Or in other words if you shot a rifle (that fired an instantaneous bullet) that it would hit the center of the Sun? Or would you have to lead the Sun a little to compensate for the fact that it took the light about 8.3 minutes to get from the Sun to your eyes?

Do you understand that you are under constant acceleration?

LeGrande, You're totally skirting around the issue!

but for those of you who don't know my view on the apparent position of the sun -- it is that the sun's position appears about 20 arcseconds ahead (compared to the direction of transverse velocity of the observer) of where it is due to Stellar Aberration.

Now please -- deal with the issues. If the sun was 12 light hours away, would it's gravitational pull be one way while it's apparent position at an instant to an observer on the earth would be the other way?

-Jesse