[AndyJackson]

More than anything else, however, it was the failure of the Soviet economic model to produce the financial foundation upon which to build a quality submarine force and the failure of Marxism-Leninism in general to produce a people educated enough and willing enough to crew such submarines on a career basis.

Typically, you take an ideological approach to everything, however, actually towards the end of the cold war, the quality of Russian Submarines was pretty high, and their nuclear propulsion and hull technology may have been superior to ours.

But up to the collapse of their economic system, our real advantage was the ability to implement real time digital signal processing on silicone integrated circuits because of rapid developments in integrated circuit technology. That is pretty much our principal technoligical advantage across the warfare spectrum even today, which is not irrelevant to the discussion at hand.

And to get back to basics you both called me a communist, even though you are trying the Obama defense, and you called me a phony.

[MindBender26]

>>>> you both called me a communist,

For the 4th time, when and where.

As for the other comment, someone who makes such a false claim is a phony.

Good night.