[DeusLeVeult]

This article made my morning so far. Let’s all keep in mind the “Bradley effect,” where a lot of well-intentioned white people tell pollsters they’ll for the “historic” candidate, but once they get into the veiled booth, they’ll pull to the Right. There may be some election night shocks for Al’ Baraq (PBUH). I sure hope so.

If someone wins 54% of popular vote, I don’t think there is any way he can lose the EV.

Someone once told me, the American people can be gullible for a time, but in the end, they aren’t stupid.

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Originally posted by DeusLeVeult:

"If someone wins 54% of popular vote, I don’t think there is any way he can lose the EV."

So far, historically, that is correct. The 'popular' vote winner with the highest percentage popular vote who lost the actual Electoral College vote was Tilden(D) in 1876 who had 50.97% of the 'popular' vote while receiving 49.9% of the electoral vote. The victor, Hayes(R) had 47.95% of the 'popular' vote and 50.1% of the electoral vote.

Here is a table with the rest of the Presidential election vote percentages, sorted by the 'popular' vote margin of the electoral college winner.

Presidential Elections
1789-2004

"Popular" Vote				Winning Percentage			Losing Percentage					Other(s) Total Percentage
Victory Margin	Year	Party	Winner	Electoral Vote	"Popular" Vote		Electoral Vote	"Popular" Vote	Loser	Party		Electoral Vote	"Popular" Vote	Others
No Popular Vote	1796	Federalist	Adams(2)	51.40%	n/a		49.30%	n/a	Jefferson(3)	Dem-Reps		99.30%	n/a	Pinckney,Burr,S.Adams,Ellsworth,G.Clinton,etc
No Popular Vote	1800	Dem-Reps	Jefferson	52.90%	n/a		52.90%	n/a	Burr	Dem-Reps		94.20%	n/a	Adams(2),Pinckney,Jay
No Popular Vote	1812	Dem-Reps	Madison	58.70%	n/a		40.80%	n/a	D.Clinton	Federalist		0.50%	n/a	Non-voting elector
No Popular Vote	1808	Dem-Reps	Madison	69.30%	n/a		26.70%	n/a	Pinckney	Federalist		4.00%	n/a	G.Clinton,etc.
No Popular Vote	1816	Dem-Reps	Monroe	82.80%	n/a		15.40%	n/a	King	Federalist		1.80%	n/a	Non-voting elector
No Popular Vote	1789	No Party	Washington	85.20%	n/a		42.00%	n/a	Adams(2)	No Party		72.80%	n/a	Jay,Harrison,Rutledge, etc
No Popular Vote	1804	Dem-Reps	Jefferson	92.00%	n/a		8.00%	n/a	Pinckney	Federalist		0.00%	n/a	Election under 12th Amendment
No Popular Vote	1792	No Party	Washington	97.80%	n/a		57.00%	n/a	Adams(2)	No Party		45.20%	n/a	G.Clinton,Jefferson,Burr,etc
No Popular Vote	1820	Dem-Reps	Monroe	98.30%	n/a		0.00%	n/a	NONE	NONE		1.70%	n/a	One "faithless" elector for JQ.Adams who was not running, three non-voting electors
26.17%	1920	Republican	Harding	76.08%	60.32%		23.92%	34.15%	Cox	Democrat		0.00%	5.53%	Debs,Christiansen,Watkins,Ferguson,W.Cox,No One,Macauley,Write-ins
25.22%	1924	Republican	Coolidge	71.94%	54.04%		25.61%	28.82%	Davis	Democrat		2.45%	17.14%	LaFollette,Faris,Foster,Johns,Nations,Write-ins,Wallace
24.25%	1936	Democrat	Roosevelt(32)	98.49%	60.80%		1.51%	36.55%	Landon	Republican		0.00%	2.65%	Lemke,Thomas,Browder,Colvin,Aiken,Pelley,Write-ins
23.15%	1972	Republican	Nixon	96.65%	60.67%		3.16%	37.52%	McGovern	Democrat		0.19%	1.81%	Hospers,Schmitz,Jenness,Spock,Fisher,Write-ins,Hall,Reed,Munn,Mahalchik,Green
22.58%	1964	Democrat	Johnson(36)	90.33%	61.05%		9.67%	38.47%	Goldwater	Republican		0.00%	0.48%	Unpledged,Hass,DeBerry,Munn,Write-ins,Kasper,Lightburn,Hensley
21.72%	1860	Republican	Lincoln	59.40%	39.82%		23.80%	18.10%	Breckenridge	S.Democrat (D)		16.80%	42.08%	Bell,Douglas,Other
18.83%	1904	Republican	Roosevelt(26)	70.59%	56.42%		29.41%	37.59%	Parker	Democrat		0.00%	5.99%	Debs,Swallow,Watson,Corregan,Holcomb,Write-ins
18.21%	1984	Republican	Reagan	97.58%	58.77%		2.42%	40.56%	Mondale	Democrat		0.00%	0.67%	Bergland,Larouche,Johnson,Richards,Serrette,Hall,Mason,Holmes,Write-in, Dennis,Winn,Dodge,No candidate,Anderson,Baker,Lowery
17.76%	1932	Democrat	Roosevelt(32)	88.89%	57.41%		11.11%	39.65%	Hoover(31)	Republican		0.00%	2.94%	Thomas,Foster,Upshaw,Harvey,Reynolds,Coxey,Write-ins,Zahnd,J.Cox,No one
17.41%	1928	Republican	Hoover	83.62%	58.21%		16.38%	40.80%	Smith	Democrat		0.00%	0.99%	Thomas,Foster,Reynolds,Varney,Webb,Write-ins
16.81%	1832	Democrat	Jackson	76.00%	54.23%		17.00%	37.42%	Clay	Nat-Reps		7.00%	8.35%	Floyd,Wirt,Non-Voting,Other
15.40%	1956	Republican	Eisenhower	86.06%	57.37%		13.75%	41.97%	Stevenson	Democrat		0.19%	0.66%	Unpledged,Andrews,Hass,Holtwick,Write-ins,Dobbs,Byrd,Hoopes,Krajewski,G.Smith,Other
14.44%	1912	Democrat	Wilson	81.92%	41.84%		16.57%	27.40%	Roosevelt(26)	Progressive (R)		1.51%	30.76%	Taft(27),Debs,Chafin,Reimer,Write-ins
14.20%	1836	Democrat	Van Buren	57.80%	50.83%		24.80%	36.63%	Harrison(9)	Whig		17.40%	12.54%	White,Webster,Mangum,Other
12.34%	1828	Democrat	Jackson	68.20%	55.97%		31.80%	43.63%	Adams(6)	Nat-Reps		0.00%	0.40%	Write-ins
12.17%	1856	Democrat	Buchanan	58.80%	45.28%		38.50%	33.11%	Freemont	Republican		2.70%	21.61%	Fillmore(13),Other
11.80%	1872	Republican	Grant	78.10%	55.63%		18.00%	43.83%	Greeley	Democrat		3.90%	0.54%	O’Conor, Greeley died before EC met, his votes split
10.85%	1952	Republican	Eisenhower	83.24%	55.18%		16.76%	44.33%	Stevenson	Democrat		0.00%	0.49%	Hallinan,Hamblen,Hass,Hoopes,MacArthur,Dobbs,Write-ins,Krajewski
10.06%	1864	Republican	Lincoln	90.60%	55.02%		9.00%	44.96%	McClellan	Democrat		0.40%	0.02%	Others
9.96%	1940	Democrat	Roosevelt(32)	84.56%	54.74%		15.44%	44.78%	Willkie	Republican		0.00%	0.48%	Thomas,Babson,Browder,Aiken,Write-ins,Knutson
9.74%	1980	Republican	Reagan	90.89%	50.75%		9.11%	41.01%	Carter(39)	Democrat		0.00%	8.24%	Anderson,Clark,Commoner,Hall,Rarick,DeBerry,McCormack,M.Smith,Write-ins,Griswold,No candidate,Bubar,McReynolds, Greaves Jr.,Pulley,R.Congress,Lynen,Gahres,Shelton,Wendelken,McLain
8.53%	1908	Republican	Taft	66.46%	51.57%		33.54%	43.04%	Bryan	Democrat		0.00%	5.39%	Debs,Chafin,Hisgen,WatsonGillhaus,Faction,Turney,Write-ins
8.51%	1996	Democrat	Clinton	70.45%	49.23%		29.55%	40.72%	Dole	Republican		0.00%	10.05%	Perot,Nader,Browne,Phillips,Hagelin,Moorehead,Feinland,Write-ins,Collins,Harris,No candidate,Peron,Hollis,White,Templin,Dodge,Crane,Forbes,Birrenback,Masters,Michael,
7.72%	1988	Republican	Bush(41)	79.18%	53.37%		20.63%	45.65%	Dukakis	Democrat		0.19%	0.98%	Paul,Fulani,Duke,McCarthy,Griffen,LaRouche,Marra,Write-ins,Winn,Warren,Lewin,Dodge,Holmes,No candidate,Kenoyer,Dennis,Herer,Youngkeit,Martin,Other
7.50%	1944	Democrat	Roosevelt(32)	81.36%	53.39%		18.64%	45.89%	Dewey	Republican		0.00%	0.72%	No candidate(TX),Thomas,Watson,Teichert,No candidate(S.Dem),Write-ins,G.Smith
6.97%	1852	Democrat	Pierce	85.80%	50.84%		14.20%	43.87%	Scott	Whig		0.00%	5.29%	Hale,Other
6.12%	1900	Republican	McKinley	65.32%	51.64%		34.68%	45.52%	Bryan	Democrat		0.00%	2.84%	Woolley,Debs,Barker,Maloney,Ellis,Write-ins,Leonard,Anti-Imperialist
6.07%	1840	Whig	Harrison(9)	79.60%	52.88%		20.40%	46.81%	Van Buren(8)	Democrat		0.00%	0.31%	Birney,Other
5.56%	1992	Democrat	Clinton	68.77%	43.01%		31.23%	37.45%	Bush(41)	Republican		0.00%	19.54%	Perot,Marrou,Gritz,Fulani,Phillips,Hagelin,Daniels,LaRouche,Warren,Write-ins,Bradford,Herer,Brisben,Halyard,No candidate,Yiamouyiannis,Ehlers,Dodge,Boren,Hem,Masters,Smith,LaRiva
5.32%	1868	Republican	Grant	72.80%	52.66%		27.20%	47.34%	Seymour	Democrat		0.00%	0.00%	Other - 46 votes nation-wide
4.79%	1848	Whig	Taylor	56.20%	47.28%		43.80%	42.49%	Cass	Democrat		0.00%	10.23%	Van Buren(8),Other
4.48%	1948	Democrat	Truman	57.06%	49.55%		35.59%	45.07%	Dewey	Republican		7.35%	5.38%	Thurmond,Wallace,Thomas,Watson,Teichert,Dobbs,Write-ins
4.33%	1896	Republican	McKinley	60.63%	51.03%		39.37%	46.70%	Bryan	Democrat		0.00%	2.27%	Palmer,Levering,Matchett,Bentley,Write-ins
3.12%	1916	Democrat	Wilson	52.17%	49.24%		47.83%	46.12%	Hughes	Republican		0.00%	4.64%	Benson,Hanly,Progressive,Reimer,Write-ins
3.01%	1892	Democrat	Cleveland(24)	62.39%	46.02%		32.66%	43.01%	Harrison(23)	Republican		4.95%	10.97%	Weaver,Bidwell,Wing,Write-ins
2.46%	2004	Republican	Bush(43)	53.20%	50.73%		46.70%	48.27%	Kerry	Democrat		0.10%	1.00%	Nader,Badnarik,Peroutka,Cobb,Write-ins,Peltier,Brown,Calero,None,Harens,Amondson,Van Auken,Parker,Jay,Andress,Dodge
2.06%	1976	Democrat	Carter	55.20%	50.08%		44.61%	48.02%	Ford(38)	Republican		0.19%	1.90%	McCarthy,MacBride,Maddox,Anderson,Camejo,Hall,Wright,LaRouche,Write-ins,Bubar,Levin,Zeidler,No candidate,Miller,F.Taylor,Other
1.46%	1844	Democrat	Polk	61.80%	49.54%		38.20%	48.08%	Clay	Whig		0.00%	2.38%	Birney,Other
0.70%	1968	Republican	Nixon	55.95%	43.42%		35.50%	42.72%	Humphrey	Democrat		8.55%	13.86%	Wallace,Blomen,Gregory,Halstead,Cleaver,McCarthy,Munn,No candidate,Write-ins,Chavez,Mitchell,Hensley
0.25%	1884	Democrat	Cleveland(22)	54.60%	48.50%		45.40%	48.25%	Blaine	Republican		0.00%	3.25%	Butler,St.John,Other
0.17%	1960	Democrat	Kennedy	56.42%	49.72%		40.78%	49.55%	Nixon(37)	Republican		2.80%	0.73%	Unpledged,Hass,Decker,Faubus,Dobbs,Sullivan,J.Lee,Coiner,Write-ins,Daly,C.King,Curtis
0.02%	1880	Republican	Garfield	58.00%	48.27%		42.00%	48.25%	Hancock	Democrat		0.00%	3.48%	Weaver,Other
-0.51%	2000	Republican	Bush(43)	50.37%	47.87%		49.44%	48.38%	Gore	Democrat		0.19%	3.75%	Nader,P.Buchanan,Browne,Phillips,Hagelin,Write-ins,Harris,L.Smith,McReynolds,Moorehead,No candidate,Brown,Lane,Venson,Dodge,Youngkeit,Other
-0.80%	1888	Republican	Harrison(23)	58.10%	47.82%		41.90%	48.62%	Cleveland(22,24)	Democrat		0.00%	3.56%	Fisk,Streeter,Other
-3.02%	1876	Republican	Hayes	50.10%	47.95%		49.90%	50.97%	Tilden	Democrat		0.00%	1.08%	Cooper,Other
-10.43%	1824	Dem-Reps	Adams(6)	32.20%	30.92%		37.90%	41.35%	Jackson(7)	Dem-Reps		29.90%	27.73%	Election under 12th Amendment. Crawford,Clay,Unpledged,Write-ins
	ALL		Average:	71.31%	51.32%		28.21%	42.03%				7.75%	6.65%
			Median:	70.45%	50.94%		29.41%	43.34%				0.00%	3.10%

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