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Ad on sex education distorts Obama policy (Perverted Obama wants sex education for 5 year olds)
MSNBC ^ | 9/10/2008 | LARRY ROHTER/NY Times

Posted on 09/11/2008 5:05:48 AM PDT by tobyhill

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To: tobyhill

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21 posted on 09/11/2008 5:55:02 AM PDT by steve8714 (Sarah was picked for the base. Period.)
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This an ultra-lib bill that even slightly left of center people find disgusting.
22 posted on 09/11/2008 5:57:16 AM PDT by tobyhill (fraud -noun;(1)deceit, trickery, sharp practice, or breach of confidence, (2) Obama)
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To: Brett66
He didn't sponsor anything

The media lies by omission. And they don't tell you about all of his "missed" votes.

So what he DID vote on does seem to be relevant.

Hasn't he also publicly spoken about this?

23 posted on 09/11/2008 6:10:33 AM PDT by weegee (Say no to the Marxist who "denounces" the 911 terrorist attacks and yet befriended a Pentagon bomber)
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To: gracesdad
This is an issue that does affect us. The Federal Government sets policies that greatly impact the upbringing of every child. When the government dictates that an elementary school must teach that homosexuality is a choice like anything else, it is really (1) introducing sexuality and homosexuality to students who were unaware of both topics. (2) Suggesting that homosexuality is okay. And it goes further -- many programs now insist that homosexuality must be taught as an equally valid or proper thing to be.

It puts parents against indoctrinated children. It puts the children against themselves -- for it allows and encourages them to make destructive "life-style" choices.

It is an issue that weakens a society. Why are almost 50% of babies born out of wedlock these days?

I can not understand for one second the take you expressed on it. You wrote that childhood education and childhood moral education is not a "real issues that might actually affect us".

I am a dad. At times I teach in our schools, in elementary schools. I observe the great problems in a classroom that are today largely due to the classroom impact of the poor behavior, constant attention seeking and lack of common moral guidelines coming out of our culture, out of broken families. It is the long-term effect of the teachings of secularism and amoralism dictated by educational establishment under the influence of overreaching judges, and culture destroyers and poisoners like Bill Ayers.

24 posted on 09/11/2008 6:11:49 AM PDT by bvw
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex-positive

The sex-positive movement is a loosely defined term that applies to a wide variety of elements that embrace social and philosophical attitudes promoting open sexuality with few limits.

The sex-positive movement does not in general make moral or ethical distinctions between heterosexual or homosexual sex, or indeed masturbation for people who are otherwise celibate, regarding these choices as matters of personal preference. Some sex-positive positions include acceptance of BDSM, asexuality, polyamory, transsexuality, transgenderism, and other forms of gender transgression in general.

Most elements of the sex-positive movement advocate comprehensive and accurate sex education as part of its campaign.

One definition of sex-positivity, from:

“Sex-positive, a term that’s coming into cultural awareness, isn’t a dippy love-child celebration of orgone – it’s a simple yet radical affirmation that we each grow our own passions on a different medium, that instead of having two or three or even half a dozen sexual orientations, we should be thinking in terms of millions...”

Some advocates of sex-positivity define their philosophy in contrast to sex-negativity, which they identify as the dominant view of sex in Western culture. According to these advocates, traditional Christian views of human sexuality define traditional Western values in relation to this subject. Thus, such proponents of sex-positivity claim that under the Western, Christian tradition, sex is seen as a destructive force except when it is redeemed by the saving grace of procreation, and sexual pleasure is seen as sinful. Sexual acts are ranked hierarchically, with marital heterosexuality at the top of the hierarchy and masturbation, homosexuality, and other sexualities that deviate from societal norms closer to the bottom....

An emerging chorus of voices from sex-positive theorists who are people of color from the West and non-Europeans from Global South has provided an important contribution to the movement, giving substance to the power anaylsis of sex-positivity at the intersection of race/culture, gender, sexuality, class, nationality, and spirituality.

“The fear of the erotic and of its power, has therefore played a powerful role in shaping institutionalized White supremacy’s vision of what it means to be African, to be Black. African is wild, hot, savage, beastlike, libidinal, primal; in short, the African is the very embodiment of all that the dominating culture sees as evil and in need of being policed and controlled.”


25 posted on 09/11/2008 6:24:23 AM PDT by weegee (Say no to the Marxist who "denounces" the 911 terrorist attacks and yet befriended a Pentagon bomber)
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To: tobyhill
http://positive.org/

“You have the right to complete and honest sex education. Demand information from your school, healthcare provider and parents.”

“We have a quick and easy online tour through the most important topics for teens who are sexually active now or just thinking about having sex. It's called “Just Say Yes”because we're tired of people telling us what we can and can't do. There's no preaching. No moralizing. Just the facts.”

26 posted on 09/11/2008 6:27:12 AM PDT by weegee (Say no to the Marxist who "denounces" the 911 terrorist attacks and yet befriended a Pentagon bomber)
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It is a decidedly antiChristian approach to teaching about sex (literally it considers Christianity to be “wrong”).

The same government that cannot establish a State religion cannot teach “counter education” to oppose Christianity.


27 posted on 09/11/2008 6:28:50 AM PDT by weegee (Say no to the Marxist who "denounces" the 911 terrorist attacks and yet befriended a Pentagon bomber)
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To: weegee
Well, not only does mist of secular sex ed and sexual identity ethic ed run counter to Christian teaching, it runs counter to Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, Shinto, Confucian, Daoist teachings and common sense as well.

Secularism is the most vilely jealous of all religions -- it insists on deliberately destroying all hope kids have to learn from the wisdoms of their elders, like Bill Ayers, like the Alinsky School of "community organization", it teaches only that which causes bitter dissents, dehumanization of opponents, and class hatreds.

28 posted on 09/11/2008 7:11:52 AM PDT by bvw
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"mist of" means "most of"

Secularism, social deconstructionism, cultural marxism -- all seek to destroy the established culture by setting up a mist -- a dense fog of irreconcilable confusion in young minds that cause their boats to drift away from the sea lanes established by generations, and become lost at sea or wrecked.

29 posted on 09/11/2008 7:16:44 AM PDT by bvw
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To: gracesdad

Sorry, but you’re 100% off the target. Obama was in favor of this and has said so multiple times. Planned Parenthood, et al, owns him.

Then there’s the ludicrous idea that what goes on in the public school classrooms is not a “real issue that might actually affect us.” Gimme a break.


30 posted on 09/11/2008 7:19:16 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (*******It's not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war. Bac Mac.******)
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To: gracesdad

BTW, read the rest of the thread. The reality of this situation is proved several times over. He voted for a bill that would have required discussing masturbation and STDs with 5 year olds.


31 posted on 09/11/2008 7:24:22 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (*******It's not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war. Bac Mac.******)
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It wouldn’t surprise me if it also would be expanded to include “tolerance” of ‘alternative’ lifestyles and same sex couples.


32 posted on 09/11/2008 8:53:40 AM PDT by weegee (Say no to the Marxist who "denounces" the 911 terrorist attacks and yet befriended a Pentagon bomber)
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To: tobyhill

the reason why liberals want our children is to brainwash them

in Ca didn ‘t or arn’t they trying to make home school illegal?
Look at the homosexuals who want to adopt children , so they can brainwash them into their perverted view of life


33 posted on 09/11/2008 9:48:08 AM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick Ma sham marriage - -end racism end affirmative action)
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