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To: tcg

well then why don’t ya’ll excommunicate him

a strident abortionist would never be welcome in a serious southern charismatic congregation lest he/she were there to confess their sins

if Catholic was as hard on folks as they were once maybe thes pro-death Catholic politicians would flinch

it’s worth a try anyhow.


15 posted on 09/10/2008 9:44:51 PM PDT by wardaddy (Obama/Pol Pot 2008)
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To: wardaddy

The Church is in a renewal badly needed since the late sixties and seventies. Once seen as compelling adherents to obey, the hierarchy then swung to the opposite extreme by nearly allowing an anything goes attitude.

Combine this with the blows she has suffered because of the abuse scandals and we get the timid leadership we have had over the past couple of decades.

But, faithful Catholics have been praying constantly and we are seeing her right herself. This is no different than when Martin Luther rightly accused the hierarchy of abuses over 500 years ago. The Church is perfect as, Jesus, her head is perfect. We who are the body are the imperfect ones and though Jesus leads us through the Holy Spirit, we must be ever vigilant against our sinful natures.

There is a saying, “It is an ill wind that blows no good.”
That the bishops are using this situation to reaffirm Catholic teaching about the sanctity of life is a good thing. That they may not be as forceful as we might like regarding excommunication or denial of communion to the likes of Pelosi and Biden et al, should not be our real concern.

Ultimately we are all going to stand before the Lord in judgment. The Church is responsible for teaching the truth. We are individually responsible for how we choose to follow and practice that truth.


16 posted on 09/11/2008 9:37:57 AM PDT by Jvette
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