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Autumn Angst: Democrats Fret About Obama (So Much For Talk Of A Democratic Year Alert)
Politico ^ | 9/10/2008 | David Paul Kuhn And Bill Nichols

Posted on 09/10/2008 5:30:13 PM PDT by goldstategop

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A Democratic meltdown? It could be a stunning coda to a year that by all accounts, should favor the Democrats.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

1 posted on 09/10/2008 5:30:22 PM PDT by goldstategop
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“I’m so depressed. It’s happening again. It’s a nightmare.”

LOL. The stupid right-wingers beat the super-genius left-wingers once again.

2 posted on 09/10/2008 5:33:41 PM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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If true, it ought to start showing in some of the state polls. NM moved today. Maybe some of the others soon. We are about 10 EVs away now.


3 posted on 09/10/2008 5:35:37 PM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: goldstategop; Kenny Bunk
“Their 50-state strategy is insanity,” said Schoen. “If they don’t use their financial advantage where they need it most,” he added, citing states from Ohio to Nevada, “and put every thing there and blow it out, they are at deep risk of losing.”

This guy is naive. He really believed Obama and the Chitown Crew meant it when they said they would play a 50 state strategy. This was a bald-faced ruse to allay the Dem establishment to turn over party coffers and controls and move them to Chicago.

In one month's time there will be emerging stories of Democrat office seekers complaining they are not getting fair shares of party funds for their own campaigns.

4 posted on 09/10/2008 5:36:57 PM PDT by Shermy (Barry O'Java - Joe Blah '08 (Carbon Credits and Credit Card Fee Increases Guaranteed))
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Not yet, I read that and the first thing that struck me was the “experts” lack of understanding of how important it is to be “real” and trustworthy, change change change is nice, but unless “us” in the hinterlands trust the guy, we won’t vote for him.

Add in Obama utterly failing the Commander in Chief roll, to me, he should fail in November simply due to that reason.

We have three wars going on, I’d rather not see a fuzzy cheeked neophyte anti war advocate running the effort and directing our Friends Sons and Daughters.


5 posted on 09/10/2008 5:37:34 PM PDT by padre35 (Sarah Palin is the one we've been waiting for..Rom 10.10..)
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The last couple of days I’ve been getting the feeling that something is up. Biden is now talking about how Hillary is more qualified than he is to be the VP. Obama said something yesterday that was very strange, something that sounded like dropping out. They are all so nervous now, that they can not win this year.


6 posted on 09/10/2008 5:38:37 PM PDT by YellowRoseofTx (Evil is not the opposite of God; it's the absence of God)
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“Joe Trippi, a consultant behind Howard Dean’s flash-in-the-pan presidential campaign in 2004 and John Edwards’s race in 2008, said the Obama campaign was slow to recognize how the selection of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as McCain’s running mate would change the dynamic of the race.”

There’s a guy who obviously gives stellar advice. Like Obama, a proven track record of success. Mr. Hindsight.


7 posted on 09/10/2008 5:42:45 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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Those two jokers are coming apart pretty fast. Does Obama know how to run a national campaign? Apparently not, judging by how he can no longer dominate the headlines and media coverage.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

8 posted on 09/10/2008 5:43:24 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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“They are all so nervous now”

They’re running against a very good looking woman.

The woman issue hurts also because of his rejection of Hillary.

Plus Democratic national campaigns have become psychodramas to compliment their self-perceived intellectuality and caring, echoed via the MSM. They know that is weak, one reason why they are so thin-skinned.

Issues...whatever. Obama and McCain aren’t that far apart.


9 posted on 09/10/2008 5:45:28 PM PDT by Shermy (Barry O'Java - Joe Blah '08 (Carbon Credits and Credit Card Fee Increases Guaranteed))
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Trippi is an idiot. They realized that immediately, not slowly.


10 posted on 09/10/2008 5:46:29 PM PDT by Shermy (Barry O'Java - Joe Blah '08 (Carbon Credits and Credit Card Fee Increases Guaranteed))
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To: LS

Didn’t see SD then today? 55 McCain 41 BozObama.


11 posted on 09/10/2008 5:47:38 PM PDT by calex59
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Steve Rosenthal, a veteran field organizer for Democrats and organized labor,

By Democrat standards, this guy could be the nominee for President in 2012.

12 posted on 09/10/2008 5:48:29 PM PDT by Disambiguator
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Did the Obama team spend this period quietly building up formidable ground operations in all 50 states?

Now those extensive ground operations in states where McCain leads by double digits are just money suckers into black holes.

13 posted on 09/10/2008 5:50:32 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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Here is Obama problem and the Dems problem in a nutshell. America is a center right country, Barack is a leftist. That wind is vectoring directly against the BDS wind and the windbag MSM. Baracks big problem is that the amplitude of the first wind is bigger than all the other winds combined.

America is not yet a liberal country.

14 posted on 09/10/2008 5:51:41 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (Mrs. Palin Goes to Washington and the MSM Trembles)
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Here is what I think is going to happen in view of Biden's idiotic statement(for a VP candidate)today about Hillary being a better candidate then he is. Hillary won't take it, she doesn't want it, so they will give it to another woman, my guess is DiFi. This will backfire big time. The Hillary supporters will have fainting spells that once again she was dissed, this time for another woman of the same party but one who is even less of a candidate than Hillary.

The only other pick that would be worse than DiFi would be Boxer or Pelosi.

Just my two cents worth and I didn't mean to hijack the thread but thought it goes with the meltdown and all.

15 posted on 09/10/2008 5:52:23 PM PDT by calex59
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. . . remember that Democrats have broken the 50 percent barrier in presidential elections only twice since 1944.

One of those two times was 1976, when the donks managed a whopping 50.08%.


16 posted on 09/10/2008 5:52:54 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or, are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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In that map, blue = Republican, right? Meaning that the colors are correct for once.


17 posted on 09/10/2008 5:55:09 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Lord please bless our nation with John McCain as president and Sarah Palin as Vice President! Amen.)
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>> A Democratic meltdown?

Framing (i.e. definition) is *everything*.

The key period was the conventions.

The Dimocraps framed poorly; the Republicans not only pulled off a stunning update of the parameters and message only three days before the convention, they framed themselves and their opposition very well during the convention. Dare I say “professionally”? And credibly.

There isn’t enough time before the election for the Dims to correct their failure and re-frame things; nor is there a key event to use as a pivot point.

It’ll be a close election but IMO the Donkos are already toast.


18 posted on 09/10/2008 5:55:22 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (I've left Cynical City... bound for Jaded.)
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To: calex59

Boxer and Pelosi make DiFi look both intelligent and centerist by comparison.


19 posted on 09/10/2008 5:55:38 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or, are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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Yes. It is from Dave Leip's website. Leip may be a lefty, but he is definitely informed and intelligent.
20 posted on 09/10/2008 5:57:39 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or, are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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