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Posted on 09/10/2008 10:10:57 AM PDT by IrishMike
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One might, therefore, plausibly argue that we have in fact "won" the war on poverty, in the sense that even our poorest people are immeasurably rich by the standards of most of the world's poor.
If one defines "victory" by a count of Americans who are actually poor by material standards, the War on Poverty has been a great success.
Mr. Browning nevertheless states that we have not "won," and actually he's correct ... but for perhaps the wrong reasons.
A useful metaphor for the current state of the War on Poverty is that of a person on life support. The body can in most cases be kept alive indefinitely, but will die when the machines are unplugged. That's where things stand now, with welfare -- take away the welfare, and true poverty will once again be among us.
Mr. Browning merely hints at the reasons why we are not winning the War on Poverty -- it's not a matter of material support; if it were only that, we are clearly victorious.
The fact is, however, that our difficulties in the War on Poverty are cultural, not material. Just like the person on life support, the person on welfare must sink or swim on her own, once the support is removed -- and our current culture does not insist on people carrying their own weight.
It's not that the cultural battle has been lost, precisely... it's that the cultural battle has barely been contested at all. There are a LOT of reasons for that, and fighting that battle would be very difficult.
But if we really want to win the War on Poverty, we have to open an offensive on the Cultural front.
It’s about time this was brought to the surface and thrust onto the national stage.
IMO, the “war on Poverty” has been a colossal failure.
We now have 4-5 generations of people who actually think that they sould have been paid by FEMA last week to leave New Orleans.
I am tired of trashing the people in this country who are accomplished and praising those who cannot do anything for themselves.
“What do we get for it?” Socialist Democrats get a vote to keep them in power. They need people to be dependent upon government.
confirmed by this soon to be classic http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRq1XRxrQP4
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In the fifties, although blacks were still struggling for equal opportunities and were on the low end of the economic ladder, the black family was for the most part strong and stable. Two parent families were the rule, not the exception. They attended church together, had strong moral values, and did not comprise a majority of the prison population.
Compare that to the present state of the black community after 40 years of Liberal Socialism.
Our prisons are disproportionably black, unwed mothers and single parent families are the rule, black youths without a strong male role model other than rap stars and basketball players, roam the streets and are drawn into a culture of drugs and crime.
The following statistics are provided by Star Parker's Coalition of Urban Renewal, (CURE).
*60 percent of black children grow up in fatherless homes.
*800,000 black men are in jail or prison.
*70 percent of black babies are born to unwed mothers.
*Over 300,000 black babies are aborted annually.
*50 percent of new AIDS cases are in the black community.
*Almost half of young black men in America's cities are neither working nor in school. What we have here is a ticking time bomb waiting to explode.
What was the message of the social programs that came out of LBJ's Great Society? One of the most devastating to the family was that if an unwed woman became pregnant, moved out of the home of her parents, did not name or know who the father was, then Big Daddy in Washington would provide for all her essential needs. Ergo she no longer needed a husband or the support of her family.
In fact, the more children she had out of wedlock, the more money she would receive from the government. This program was the death knell for many families, especially in the black community.
Unfortunately many black men saw this as the best of all possible worlds. They could father as many children as they wanted, from multiple women, without ever having to accept the responsibility of fatherhood.
Many women rejected marriage in favor of a boyfriend who could slip in the back door and not jeopardize her government check.
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much of that money is eaten up by administrative costs, private contractors, corruption, waste, duplication of effort in 10 different government departments-—in short, it is a clumsy, wasteful bureacracy that swallows the money, not actual poor people.
Handouts just keep people from getting jobs and taking care of themselves. Government handouts don’t work. There are generations of families that have never worked.
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It would seem to make more sense to give the money directly to the "poor"
people and just cut a check for them. But it wouldn't make much difference.
Workfare works, but people either refuse to believe it or simply too lazy to implement it.
You can be wealthy and low-income at the same time, and you can also be be poor and high-income at the same time.
That was one of the most insightful comments I have ever read on FR.
I’ve been as poor as any person in this country but my home was never trashy or dirty. I didn’t have the means to go to expensive schools but I am hardly uneducated. I have few material goods but not one thing I do have was dishonestly obtained. I learned from others that not running afoul of the law saves a lot of money.
So by some definitions I am and have been poor all my life but I’ve never considered myself impoverished.
I’m sure most of the posters and readers know the difference.
Have I ever received any sort of government assistance? Sure, I’ve used programs that my tax dollars had supported but the key word is here is assistance not a livlihood, not living on others work when I could care for my own needs.
Assistance as a last resort and as a very temporary event, not as a means of avoiding the burdens and rewards of providing for myself.
Money has never reduced the poverty of character, spirit if you will, hence it cannot reduce the number of members of society who are poor due to their poverty.
Exactly.
A trillion dollars in the hands of small businesses would have created millions of jobs and done more for the war on poverty than all welfare programs put together. A more logical approach would have been to create tax free zones in areas of high poverty.
That was one of the most insightful comments I have ever read on FR.
Dittos the applause, logician2u. I like this part even more:
"OK, you can declare -- through presidential proclamation, since Congress hasn't been involved since 1941 -- war on these things, but you'd be hard-pressed to ever declare victory."
"That's the problem. Once begun, the war continues indefinitely, or until the nation becomes bankrupt as a result."
An argument of possible merit, depending on the numbers.
Goes up during Carter or Bush terms, eh?
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