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Deceitful Tactics By Kaine To Promote Obama In Churches
email ^ | Sept. 6, 2008 | (local pastor)

Posted on 09/09/2008 4:38:33 PM PDT by beezdotcom

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Again - This is from an email forwarded to me that allegedly came from a local pastor. I have followed up with the pastor personally, and he confirmed that the email was indeed originally sent by him, and accurately represents his experience. Even though he did not specifically ask me to do this, I have redacted the personally identifying information - but I will provide it to folks who FReepmail me with a specific request for it.) I just don't want him to face a sudden barrage of harassment at the moment, since I'm posting this mainly as a cautionary tale.

However, if others have experienced similar things and we want to move forward with providing details for purposes of the media, then I will secure explicit consent to do so; he probably won't mind, especially if he discovers that there is a larger pattern that needs to be exposed.
1 posted on 09/09/2008 4:38:36 PM PDT by beezdotcom
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To: beezdotcom

Straight to Drudge with it!!


2 posted on 09/09/2008 4:43:24 PM PDT by xcamel (Conservatives start smart, and get rich, liberals start rich, and get stupid.)
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To: xcamel

Some community organizers may be good people.

These community organizers seem to employ tactics more akin to National Socialists if you get my drift.


3 posted on 09/09/2008 4:47:23 PM PDT by johnnycap
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To: xcamel
Straight to Drudge with it!!

I seriously thought about that...however, before I do, I was hoping to gather a little more information to see if anyone has reported this type of solicitation. I'm reluctant to bring the full force of Drudge readership down on this church's email, web site, telephone without the express consent and warning of this pastor.

Let's see where this goes - but I do plan to follow up on this later in the week.
4 posted on 09/09/2008 4:50:35 PM PDT by beezdotcom
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To: beezdotcom

Zerobama’s people are as stupid and deceitful as he is. This year I’m going to vote straight Republican ticket and I’m not a registered Republican. The Democrats can NOT be rewarded in any way this electoral season.


5 posted on 09/09/2008 4:50:54 PM PDT by Two Kids' Dad (I hear that the reason Chuck Norris is a Republican is because he is afraid of Sarah Palin.)
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To: beezdotcom; SilvieWaldorfMD; suspects
He assured me that if our congregation was just informed, then they would most likely switch and vote for Senator Obama rather than Senator McCain, like believers across the nation are doing, he asserted.

What utter BS! Get this to Rush, Mark Levin, Hannity, Malkin, the guys as Red State, and the rest of the Conservative radio community! Drudge too!

6 posted on 09/09/2008 4:52:02 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin is a smart missile aimed at the heart of the left!)
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To: beezdotcom

Perhaps the Pastor would do well to let everybody know what’s going on.


7 posted on 09/09/2008 4:53:46 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (Mrs. Palin Goes to Washington and the MSM Trembles)
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To: greyfoxx39; indcons; pissant; Tennessee Nana; Antoninus; Ultra Sonic 007

Check out this bit of Obama skullduggery, pards and pardette!


8 posted on 09/09/2008 4:54:13 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin is a smart missile aimed at the heart of the left!)
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To: xcamel

What I want to know is whether the MSM, or even Free Republic will state the two slurs that Obama and Biden made toward the Palin family, Trig and people who do not believe in taking all , all stem cells including from fetuses, in helping the ill? We know that the black guv of NY uttered the inane statement that , ‘community organizer’ is a code word for black. And of course, the MSM went with that. How absurd! Yet, will the MSM discuss the lipstick remark by BO or the cell slur by Biden? Bet not.


9 posted on 09/09/2008 4:56:15 PM PDT by phillyfanatic
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To: Norman Bates

Ooops! Forgot to ping you too, Norman! Here goes!


10 posted on 09/09/2008 4:57:12 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin is a smart missile aimed at the heart of the left!)
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To: beezdotcom

Why would any pastor worth his salt give the pulpit to *any* politician?

Makes *no* sense whatsoever.


11 posted on 09/09/2008 4:58:08 PM PDT by agrarianlady
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To: colorcountry; Pan_Yans Wife; MHGinTN; Colofornian; Elsie; FastCoyote; Osage Orange; svcw; Enosh; ...

Ping


12 posted on 09/09/2008 4:59:30 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 ("I fear all we have done is awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve. ( DBM)
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To: beezdotcom


Deceitful Tactics By Kaine To Promote Obama In Churches

Obama’s people have plenty of time to try to dupe church goers
into voting for that nice young Obama fellow.
As they almost certainly have solid support in the mosques of Virginia.

Especially the ones in Northern Virginia’s “Wahhabi Corridor”.
That almost certainly went solidly for Sen. Webb.

http://www.sperryfiles.com/corridor.shtml


13 posted on 09/09/2008 5:00:48 PM PDT by VOA
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To: beezdotcom

Remember - a Dimwit wouldn’t hesitate for a second, given a chance...


14 posted on 09/09/2008 5:02:27 PM PDT by xcamel (Conservatives start smart, and get rich, liberals start rich, and get stupid.)
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To: agrarianlady
Why would any pastor worth his salt give the pulpit to *any* politician? Makes *no* sense whatsoever.

That's a reasonable question - and if there is a reluctance by this pastor to carry this story wider with attribution, maybe he's a little embarrassed by that.

Still, though, under other circumstances, a politician who is also a fellow Christian can usually be counted on to not ambush you at the pulpit. A governor usually makes a worthy guest speaker - I certainly wouldn't have made too much noise if our church had accepted a 'good faith' offer for something like this. Politicians - governors, especially - are USUALLY smart enough not to make a partisan mess of their message when they take the pulpit of a mainstream church. Apparently, Kaine is not that smart.
15 posted on 09/09/2008 5:04:16 PM PDT by beezdotcom
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To: beezdotcom
I don't know. Maybe because I have a headache but this is not passing a smell test. Sorry.
16 posted on 09/09/2008 5:04:25 PM PDT by svcw (http://baskettastic.com/)
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To: svcw

Queen Hillary used this tactic extensively... Why do you find it so hard to believe?


17 posted on 09/09/2008 5:09:02 PM PDT by xcamel (Conservatives start smart, and get rich, liberals start rich, and get stupid.)
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Remember - a Dimwit wouldn’t hesitate for a second, given a chance...

Too true...but since we have the capacity for reason, we can take the few moments to prepare and execute. I'm composing an email right now to this pastor to ask him to consider putting this out to a broader audience with attribution.

While the Democrats get away with these tactics all the time in inner-city churches, the reality is that mainstream churches are at significant risk from the IRS if politics enters their pulpit - and the Obama campaign endangers every church they do this to.
18 posted on 09/09/2008 5:10:48 PM PDT by beezdotcom
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To: beezdotcom

It doesn’t seem likely that this will happen in WV, but I’m glad to have a heads-up on this just in case. Our Gov. is a dem, but I doubt he would go along with this sort of scam.


19 posted on 09/09/2008 5:11:20 PM PDT by WVNan
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To: beezdotcom
McCain Rings Up $5M At Chicago Fundraiser Amount Averages To $1 Million Per Hour Spent Here

Mike Flannery CHICAGO (CBS) ― Republican John McCain raised about $5 million in Chicago Monday night, or about $1 million for each hour he spent in Democrat Barack Obama's home town.

OUCH!

http://cbs2chicago.com/politics/mccain.chicago.fundraiser.2.812952.html

This might be why...

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Antoine Members is a Republican challenging incumbent Democrat Bobby Rush in the 1st CD, the congressional district where Barack Obama lives. Watch this zero-budget YouTube in which Antoine, a spunky 29 year old Chicago corrections officer, tells the world what it's like to live in Obama's home district. . with video

DOUBLE OUCH!

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Antoine Members for Congress

20 posted on 09/09/2008 5:11:45 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (McCAIN/PALIN...THE CHANGE AMERICANS REALLY WANT)
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