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To: Prophet in the wilderness
Ok... maybe your right, we should not stoop to the DUDummies level or the Daily Kos hysteria here .... however, this does not change my mind about Obama being a Muslim.

I saw a repulsive post on Daily Kos while looking at the past weeks Sarah Palin attacks there. It basically said that "rumors and lies and taking things out of context is necessary if it makes even one person hesitate to pull the level for McSame."

The values inherent in Conservatism should preclude that sort of valueless deception and out-of-context-grabbing-at-straws nonsense from occurring on FR.

Without a reputation for fairness and honesty, you become an analogue of the hysterical liars on the left.

You're damn right I don't want Obama in the White House. But I am not going to become a bullshit artist in the process.

If you "win" by compromising every standard of decency and integrity you say you stand for, then what have you "won"?

The truth, warts and all, is enough to secure a win for McCain/Palin versus Obama/Biden.

Unlike the democrats, whose entire convention was all about telling everyone how they are "normal people, just like you, Mr. and Mrs. America!", Palin didn't have to say word one on that subject. It was instantly apparent. Likewise for McCain. Their values are in how they have lived, as imperfect people whose character is strengthened by their faith.

If we shriek and froth at every gaffe, every out of context possibility, we end up at the same point as the valueless win at all costs left ... without values, character, or faith.

731 posted on 09/07/2008 11:17:51 AM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: spodefly

Well said!


734 posted on 09/07/2008 11:19:02 AM PDT by X-Servative
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To: spodefly

So at what point do we stop ignoring the many problems with this man?


775 posted on 09/07/2008 11:46:07 AM PDT by beckysueb (Drill here! Drill now!)
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To: spodefly

Why are you insisting that I give Obama the benefit of the doubt? That I make a “leap of faith”, if you will, for what he MEANT to say versus what he ACTUALLY said?

I have no idea what he MEANT to say, and I wouldn’t assume that of anybody. I can’t read minds.

However, I do understand what people ACTUALLY say, and I support Obama completely when he says ‘WORDS MATTER’. Therefore, all I can surmise is that Obama meant WHAT HE SAID this a.m.,


776 posted on 09/07/2008 11:46:13 AM PDT by mabelkitty (Obama thanks McCain for not questioning his Muslim faith)
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To: spodefly
I saw a repulsive post on Daily Kos while looking at the past weeks Sarah Palin attacks there. It basically said that "rumors and lies and taking things out of context is necessary if it makes even one person hesitate to pull the level for McSame."

I think this is the post you're referring to (It's from DU):

NoodleyAppendage (1000+ posts) Sat Aug-30-08 10:26

122. What many here don't understand. It doesn't matter if it's true or not. RUMOR IS TRUTH.

The modern laws of media hype and political warfare have a useful tenet:

Repeat ANYTHING or raise false concern over ANYTHING and it is likely to be planted in the conscious/subconscious of many voters.

If people start to think that there might be something fishy with Palin's last kid (if hers), then that's FINE. One more doubt (whether tied to reality or not) is another hesitation at the ballot box.

GET WITH THE PROGRAM PEOPLE. The "rising above it" bullshit has served us so well in the past, hasn't it?

If you have problems with the story, then STFU and get out of the way of Dems who are engaged in MODERN POLITICAL WARFARE. Go tend your garden or some other pedestrian task, because the "concern trolls" are not helping shape the message.

Scary that I see some posts here that sound strangely similar.

785 posted on 09/07/2008 11:50:52 AM PDT by tsmith130
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To: spodefly

http://news.newsmax.com/?ZK4v.qSVEsFA7gEg7-N.w3PHD3yftfRAZ


832 posted on 09/07/2008 12:16:27 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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