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Russian Navy to adopt new carrier fighters after 2016
RIA Novosti ^ | 7 September 2008 | Unk

Posted on 09/07/2008 2:55:40 AM PDT by DJ Elliott

The general also confirmed that a decision to build new aircraft carriers for the Russian Navy had been adopted.

Russia's Navy commander, Adm. Vladimir Vysotsky, said in July that the Navy command had decided to form in the future 5-6 aircraft carrier task forces to be deployed with the Northern and Pacific fleets.

(Excerpt) Read more at en.rian.ru ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: armsbuildup; carriers; geopolitics; miltech; navair; navy; russia; russiannavy
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That is a seriously expensive armaments program. Rebuilding the Red Fleet to 60% of the USN...
1 posted on 09/07/2008 2:55:40 AM PDT by DJ Elliott
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I was just going to say... with what money ? Sure they’ve made a killing with oil and gas lately, but ships are extremely expensive.


2 posted on 09/07/2008 3:03:18 AM PDT by farlander (Try not to wear milk bone underwear - it's a dog eat dog financial world)
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To: farlander

They better hope oil prices stay high.


3 posted on 09/07/2008 3:09:05 AM PDT by jerry557
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To: jerry557
They better hope they can make oil stay high.
4 posted on 09/07/2008 3:10:46 AM PDT by InABunkerUnderSF (Illegal Immigration is not about the immigration. Gun control is not about the guns.)
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To: DJ Elliott

But note they don’t define what type carriers. We know one can slap a flight deck on a Liberty Ship and have a “carrier”. If they are talking half a dozen full sized carriers they are playing games with the west yet again. If they are talking small ships comparable to the British and Italian ski-jump carriers, might be true.

Overall, I’d call this more bluff and fantasy.


5 posted on 09/07/2008 3:18:07 AM PDT by tlb
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The problem Russia has is that one of the reasons they have money now (other than oil) is because Moscow has become a tourist and financial center. There is a lot of money going through there. If they start up their cold war crap again, the tourists will be gone and the investors pull their money out.

Which means their entire economy would rest upon oil and natural gas. Talk about skating on thin ice...


6 posted on 09/07/2008 3:27:32 AM PDT by jerry557
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To: jerry557

They’ll use their proxies Iran and/or Venezuela to rattle their swords to drive oil prices up. So far it has worked like a charm. I suspect you can only cry war so many times though before it is ignored. Then they’ll have to up the ante...


7 posted on 09/07/2008 3:34:11 AM PDT by DB
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To: magslinger

Ping


8 posted on 09/07/2008 3:44:13 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Obama: Carter's only chance to avoid going down in history as the worst U.S. president ever.)
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To: tlb

They don’t have an economy capable of building even 2-3 of those, let alone 5-6.

Pure bluff and fantasy.


9 posted on 09/07/2008 3:45:32 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Obama: Carter's only chance to avoid going down in history as the worst U.S. president ever.)
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To: jerry557

Check out the RSI since the Russian invasion of Georgia. It has seriously tanked. The investors are already bailing out.


10 posted on 09/07/2008 3:46:45 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Obama: Carter's only chance to avoid going down in history as the worst U.S. president ever.)
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To: InABunkerUnderSF; jerry557

Another reason to support Palin. Higher domestic oil supply = lower oil prices = less cash for Russia and Iran.


11 posted on 09/07/2008 3:50:05 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (I <3 my PitBull. Sic em girl!!)
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To: DJ Elliott

McCain has to make oil a bigger issue than he has so far.

Oil wealth is empowering our enemies.

High oil prices are sapping the strength of America.

McCain has to do a better job of emphasizing how important this single issue — oil — actually is.

As for confining his new drilling initiatives to “off shore” (and leaving Artic Oil in the ground), maybe he should point out that “off shore” includes ALL our American coastlines:

Atlantic
Gulf Coast
Pacific
Bering Sea
Artic Ocean


12 posted on 09/07/2008 3:50:51 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: jerry557

I read several articles last week talking about the investor drain. People have already pulled out billions of $s and their stock market took a crash last week. They want it both ways. Won’t happen.


13 posted on 09/07/2008 4:04:52 AM PDT by ChinaThreat (s)
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To: ovrtaxt

Exactly. It looks like the mere threat that the US would develop our own energy resources has been enough push oil prices down by over $20 a barrel and stabilize the dollar despite the mortgage mess.

To win Cold War II the US needs to make a major push for energy independence.


14 posted on 09/07/2008 4:19:34 AM PDT by InABunkerUnderSF (Illegal Immigration is not about the immigration. Gun control is not about the guns.)
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To: samtheman

““off shore” includes ALL our American coastlines:
Atlantic
Gulf Coast
Pacific
Bering Sea
Artic Ocean”

+1

McCain/Palin 08!


15 posted on 09/07/2008 4:24:26 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty
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To: farlander
This announcement is fanciful, nothing but an expression of state propaganda and camouflage for graft. The Russians are notorious for declaring new weapons projects and then not fielding them. The money spent simply disappears into various waiting pockets.

Worse than that, the Russian defense industry workforce is aging and ever less capable of producing modern weapons and systems. Russia's demographic decline will soon make it much harder to man their military, and their impending oil industry decline will make their finances shaky after another ten years.

16 posted on 09/07/2008 4:28:28 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: FreedomPoster
The Russian Navy couldn't even get a 500 foot sub(minus 50 feet) up out of 300 feet of water. They had to contract it too the Brits/Finns.


17 posted on 09/07/2008 4:28:37 AM PDT by Leisler
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To: Rockingham
“This announcement is fanciful”

All you say is correct; the construction of a Nimitz class carrier such as the Ronald Reagan is the most complex and expensive project, perhaps second only to our space program, that the Russians could undertake. Then, the manning, training, execution of various tasks is beyond the scope and ability of the Russian military. Long story short, let's do hope that the Russians would be so stupid to pour huge amounts of their money, resources and energy down what would be a sink-hole for them. I don't think it will happen, wish it would though...

18 posted on 09/07/2008 4:38:30 AM PDT by snoringbear (Government is the Pimp,)
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To: DJ Elliott

Let ‘em spend all they like. You don’t build naval avaition overnight.


19 posted on 09/07/2008 4:39:01 AM PDT by paddles
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To: jerry557

High ?
They had better hope oil hit $1,200.00 a barrel for that kind of spending spree!


20 posted on 09/07/2008 5:42:38 AM PDT by WyvernAK
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