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How Serious Is Polling's Cell-Only Problem?
Pew Research ^ | June 20, 2007 | Scott Keeter

Posted on 09/05/2008 6:19:46 AM PDT by xzins

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To: xzins

There is a large and growing class of cell only users they forgot. The full time RVers. There are a few million of us now. Some own houses and some don’t; I don’t.

I work in Houston and have worked in five states in five years. I have a Corpus Christ number and the wife has a ‘Vegas number because that is where we are from and have family & friends.

A large chunk of the full timers are construction, especially industrial construction types. We tend to be gun tote’n physical conservatives...


41 posted on 09/05/2008 8:02:25 AM PDT by El Laton Caliente (NRA Member & www.Gunsnet.net Moderator)
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To: manc
I said they were confused and one thought I was giving a false address hence thought I was lying.

First, what you say you are doing is arguing. Second, why do you care what a telemarketer says or thinks. Don't argue (go look the word up since you don't know what it means). Just hang up on the offensive twits.

It is because people like you that telemarketers think it is worth their time to bother people like me.

42 posted on 09/05/2008 8:09:54 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: AndyJackson

WOW

speechless

Because I believe in treating people like I would like to be treated.

I believe in respect to others and I don’t start arguments with people I do not know or accuse people or something.

I don’t call people names

I look at it that they are doing this because they need the money and that is good in my book instead of sponging off the Govt

I teach my kids the same thing for if we all treated each other better than this world would be better off instead of having gobshites bigging themselves up over a phone or the internet.

I believe in treating people as if I was face to face not being cyber brave behind the safety of my keyboard or phone

As for my fault telemarketers calling you , well

whatever.

You think me being rude to telemarketers will stop calling you.

yea OK

And for the record it was my call I know what was said and no arguments were done.
You were not there so therefore you do not know.


43 posted on 09/05/2008 8:25:15 AM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick Ma sham marriage - -end racism end affirmative action)
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To: xzins

My husband and I, in our 50’s, use cell phone exclusively. We haven’t had a landline for over a year. Neither of us will answer an unknown caller.

Whenever the Dems are polling badly the Left always screams about how cell phone users, who they think are all in their 20’s, are not being polled.

I think young and old and in between hesitate to answer unknown callers, cell or landline.


44 posted on 09/05/2008 8:33:12 AM PDT by whatshotandwhatsnot
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To: xzins

How come they don’t poll by cell?

I get 3 calls a week telling me my car’s warranty is about to expire (which is not true), so how come polling companies can’t call?


45 posted on 09/05/2008 8:34:54 AM PDT by cookcounty ("A ship in harbor is safe, but that's not why the ship is built." ---Governor Sarah Palin)
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To: manc
You need to find a dictionary and look up the word argue, since you seem to think that it means having a heated altercation. A discussion where you politely correct someone's incorrect information is an argument.

And now I know why telemarketing works. I always considered it an affront to use my equipment to invade my privacy and take up my time uninvited by me. Apparently there are saps like you who think it is just ok.

46 posted on 09/05/2008 8:39:29 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: cookcounty

The article points out that cell phone polling costs them much more since they have to reimburse the one the call for the receiver charges from the phone company.


47 posted on 09/05/2008 8:45:03 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain -- Those denying the War was Necessary Do NOT Support the Troops!)
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To: AndyJackson

I had the conversation you never and yet you think you know how it went, strange indeed.
second it was not heated and I have not said heated you have.

As for the name calling, well just looking at your past posts to others I can only come to the conclusion that you seem to have a bad attitude or you seem angry at the world.

As for thinking it is OK well I think it is great that people are working and making money don’t you?
It’s a job they have annoying to you yes but at least they have a job and are working.
They are not taking your tax money because they are lazy

They may be annoying and that is your choice my choice is to be polite and show respect .
I would not like to be treated rudely so I would not treat them rudely.
Maybe next time don’t answer or just simply say I am not in the mood or I am busy please don’t call me back either.

My kids know this too and the youngest is 5.

Something for you to ponder.

o and if you look at it as uninvited then are you rude to those who get the wrong number as they were never asked to call you either.


48 posted on 09/05/2008 9:09:37 AM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick Ma sham marriage - -end racism end affirmative action)
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I can only come to the conclusion that you seem to have a bad attitude or you seem angry at the world.

Not the least. My principal issue is that a lot of our problems in this country come from substituting sloppy sentimentality for clear thinking, as you have just done. When I call folks idiots, it is to grab their attention and point out to them that they are not using their brains. They are not arguing a point from facts that we can verify and clear logic to reach a conclusion that we can first undrestand and then second accept, reject, or improve upon.

The fact is that you and others need to start thinking about what you say and the consequence for others of what you do.

As a rhetorical question, did you, when you elected to instruct me on the art of being polite to those who invade my privacy using my property paid for with my money, that telemarketing is now largely an offshore business, call centers in India backed up by random dialing machines to pick on anyone who will answer. So it is not even your fellow Americans you are supporting in your polite addresses to those who invade your home using your telephone and your kind manners to do so.

I am not particularly polite to mice and cockroaches that attempt to invade my house either. It is this my home is my castle sort of principle that we seem to have abandoned long ago.

49 posted on 09/05/2008 10:10:02 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: manc
then are you rude to those who get the wrong number as they were never asked to call you either.

As Judge Souter said famously in the 2nd review of the Fl SC decisions on chads, "even a dog knows the difference between being tripped over and being kicked." Someone who has the wrong number is innocently using my phone. A neighbor with an inquiry or concern is well meaning.

Someone who calls me demands to know my name and then tries to tell me I am his best friend and I only need to tell him all of my personal information before I can get a free trip to Miami for a mere cost of $2000 for my partner's ticket, is a fraud a cheat and a swindler and deserves to have the phone slammed down on him accompanied by a stream of unrepeatable epithets.

And idiots like you thinking it is right to be polite to those kinds of folks only encourage them to call me.

And in pondering my words bear Souter's observation in mind, and in future try thinking with thinking part of your grey matter. I am not trying to molly-coddle you. I am trying to induce you to think for a change. The world will be a far better place for it.

50 posted on 09/05/2008 10:17:15 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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And finally, to get back to the original point before you diverted it, I have no clue what purpose you thought you were serving by discussing the fact with a telemarketer that the information he had on where you lived was incorrect. From the sounds of it, other than trying to be polite, you have no clue either.


51 posted on 09/05/2008 10:21:04 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: xzins
The future of polling is on the Internet, get a real profile on individuals, have them answer the poll questions and then do a random sample of group members that matches the demographics of the group you want to sample.
52 posted on 09/05/2008 10:27:43 AM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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To: AndyJackson

I have no clue what purpose you thought you were serving by discussing the fact with a telemarketer that the information he had on where you lived was incorrect. From the sounds of it, other than trying to be polite, you have no clue either.

you said clue twice

First you admit you have no clue and then you say I have no clue.

Then if you had no clue what purpose I was bringing up why get involved in the subject with me, why jump in with name calling and thinking you know how my conversation went?
Bizarre or know it all.

Then you say I have no clue.

OK then.


53 posted on 09/05/2008 10:28:13 AM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick Ma sham marriage - -end racism end affirmative action)
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Indian centers.
Ah I bought a HP laptop and had to endure for 4 months an
Indian call center but even though it was frustrating I knew that they were doing their job and it wasn’t their fault for not being able to speak English that well.

It was HP’s fault getting cheaper labour.

I do not take my frustration out of someone who is not at fault nor do I jump into conversations I do not have a clue about and then assume I know all about what they are saying

Out of curiosity if you have to talk to an Indian call center then are you rude to them?


54 posted on 09/05/2008 10:32:51 AM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick Ma sham marriage - -end racism end affirmative action)
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To: AndyJackson

see this is where you and I differ the way I get peoples attention is be getting my point across in a civilised manner and not by calling people names.

You see when you call people names and I do wonder if you would do it face to face instead of being behind a keyboard in the safety of your home then it doesn’t start of a debate or conversation to well does it?

I’ll be honest if someone is wanting to call me a name face to face then he is disrespecting me and I do not just stand there and listen to that.


55 posted on 09/05/2008 10:42:25 AM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick Ma sham marriage - -end racism end affirmative action)
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To: manc

‘Bizarre or know it all.’

I vote know-it-all. ; )


56 posted on 09/05/2008 11:04:38 AM PDT by waverna
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