To: monday
Athens lost !
Sparta ultimately won the Peloponnesian Wars, but esstenially was exhausted. Athens did make something of a comeback, but did not directly challenge Sparta militarily. (In reality no on really won the Pelopenesian Wars!)
Sparta was humbled by Thebes (See Epaminondas !)
Thebes essentially became the dominant power until Phillip & Alexander came along and destroyed Thebes. The rest of Greece submitted more or less after Chaeronea, Sparta remained independent but insignificant. I think I remembered all this right. I don't really have time to look it up. I am sure someone will correct me if I am wrong.
97 posted on
09/03/2008 4:07:55 PM PDT by
Reily
To: Reily
You are correct in your narrative.
Both Athens and Sparta became marginal.
101 posted on
09/03/2008 5:09:31 PM PDT by
buwaya
To: Reily
See #76. My point was that Spartan autocratic societies are not stronger economically than free democratic societies in today's world and it's lunacy to think they are.
108 posted on
09/04/2008 7:43:21 AM PDT by
monday
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