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Pakistan's Next President Is a Category 5 Disaster
The Wall Street Journal Online ^ | 9/2/08 | Bret Stephens

Posted on 09/02/2008 6:38:20 PM PDT by Bosco

If there's a case to be made against democracy, few countries make it better than Pakistan.

On Saturday, Pakistani legislators will elect a new president to replace Pervez Musharraf, the general-turned-strongman who resigned the office last month.

In one corner there is Mushahid Hussain Sayed, a former journalist and one-time political prisoner of Mr. Musharraf who is nonetheless running as the candidate of the general's old party. Mr. Mushahid, probably the best of the bunch, stands next to no chance of winning.

In another corner there is Saeeduzzaman Siddiqui, candidate of former Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif's party. Mr. Sharif -- whose record includes bankrupting his country, presiding over a disastrous military campaign against India, and attempting to implement Sharia law while awarding himself near-dictatorial powers -- has made it clear he intends to gut the powers of the presidency should he return to office.

(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: disaster; geopolitics; islam; mohammedanism; pakistan
Read the entire article. Pray.
1 posted on 09/02/2008 6:38:22 PM PDT by Bosco
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To: Bosco

It was easy for people to dump on Musharraf but it seems like for a political cesspool like Pakistan he may have been the best they’re going to see for a long, long time.....


2 posted on 09/02/2008 6:42:08 PM PDT by Enchante (Governor Sarah Palin Runs a State -- Obama and Biden Run Their Mouths!!)
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To: Bosco

Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.
H. L. Mencken


3 posted on 09/02/2008 6:47:39 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (The best is the enemy of the good!)
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To: Bosco

Maybe the election will spark a revolution that will enable the people of Iran to get rid of that crowd of stink-fingered mullahs.


4 posted on 09/02/2008 6:51:50 PM PDT by Octar
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To: Bosco
But Mr. Zardari is a caricature of everything that's morally bankrupt with the country's Westernized elite, and thus an inviting propaganda target for al Qaeda and the Taliban.

In 1979, Iran had a westernized elite that opposed the fundamentalist Mullahas. Those of this elite who didn't escape to the West are now dead.

On the other hand, perhaps the violent British Muslims will move back to their homeland, helping the UK no end. Not too likely.

5 posted on 09/02/2008 6:51:51 PM PDT by JimSEA (just another liberal-bashing fearmonger)
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To: Bosco

Hopefully, we can now get on with what we should have done on 9/12/2001 — nuke Pakistan. They’re the enemy. Always have been. Always will be. Better to destroy them now and send a message to Mr. Tiger Killer that he’s just a pretend power.


6 posted on 09/02/2008 6:59:55 PM PDT by LenS
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To: Octar

How will a new president in Pakistan spark a revolution in Iran?


7 posted on 09/02/2008 7:00:25 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Octar

You may be right. History has demonstrated many times that those who rule with an iron fist are in the most danger when the grip has been slightly relaxed, and then it suddenly tightens up again. Apparently, once given a small taste of freedom most people don’t easily put the yoke back on. I’m also watching to see what happens in China in the next few months. I have to believe that freedom got some exposure there during the Olympics, despite the red armies’ best efforts...


8 posted on 09/02/2008 7:01:22 PM PDT by Hegemony Cricket (Vigilantism will arise where the justice system is viewed as overly lenient and/or ineffective.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Another Condeleeza success story. I know she speaks Russian, plays piano, etc,, and is otherwise reputed to be a brilliant person. But *why* did she engineer sending that corrupt Bhutto woman back to certain death, and work day and night, to remove the closest thing to a friendly leader we will ever have in Pakistan? To the degree he could do so without sparking a full-on civil war, Mushariff (sp?)has cooperated with us.

The Taliban took over Afghanistan on her watch, not Mushariff’s. I’m not being sarcastic. Seriously soliciting opinions,, why do we feel it is so important to give a “democratic vote” to a nation where a stunning number of the people defend the concept of burying women when they make you mad, or acid to their face, honor killings, etc?
Sharanski wrote the book that is supposed to be Bush’s model. Its called “the case for democracy,,the power of freedom”.

It’s central concept was that you can’t have a meaningful vote, until the nation in question is a safe place to state your politics in public without a rational fear of violence, whether it’s governmental or societal. He points out that ALL despots, inclubing Saddam and Stalin regularly held democratic votes.
For example,,witness the “vote” in the palestinian zones that brought Hezbollah into power. (not to chase a rabbit,,,but Obama supporters,,, i just *had* to guys!)
Those votes did not advance freedom, they made a mockery of it.

Does anyone have a clue what we gained by doing this to a nation with nuclear weapons, a place that only the naive believe could somehow have a radical islamic government takeover, without them also gaining control of those nukes?Sorry this was a little long winded, but I have been mystified by this since last winter when Condeleeza started saying Mushariff MUST go. Ideas?


9 posted on 09/02/2008 7:16:51 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs earn the title of "man's best friend", what title has islam earned from us?,)
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To: DuncanWaring
How will a new president in Pakistan spark a revolution in Iran?

By angering the people through incompetence and indecision.

10 posted on 09/02/2008 7:59:21 PM PDT by Octar
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To: Octar

Aren’t Pakistan and Iran different countries?


11 posted on 09/02/2008 8:04:49 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Bosco; Enchante

I never understood the crowd on FR that hated Musharraf, wanted him gone, etc. It was obvious that a secular despot was the best possible bet we could get in that nuclear country, despite his inability to totally control his own government.

What is going to replace him is very possibly going to provoke an international event at some point.

I guess Freepers want free and fair elections in Egypt too :(


12 posted on 09/02/2008 8:27:16 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: DesertRhino

I fully agree with your sentiments. Our visible policy in Pakistan vis a vis musharraf is insanity with a nuclear warhead attached.


13 posted on 09/02/2008 8:29:50 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: DesertRhino
But *why* did she engineer sending that corrupt Bhutto woman back to certain death, and work day and night, to remove the closest thing to a friendly leader we will ever have in Pakistan?

Believe it or not, the Maddy Albright's father had a big hand in forming Condi Rice's outlook. I believe he was he dissertation advisor. Both Albrights were steeped in the ideology of democracy at all costs.

I have always been mystified by the adulation some feel for Condi. We've had worse Sec's of State, but I've always thought she was always overated.

14 posted on 09/02/2008 8:31:39 PM PDT by ishmac
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To: DuncanWaring

I’m sorry, I was thinking about Iran and that mess when I should have remembered it was Pakistan we were discussing. My mistake. The Pakistan mess will remain one for a long time, I’m afraid.


15 posted on 09/02/2008 8:35:27 PM PDT by Octar
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To: Bosco
Zadari will be corrupt but reasonably popular. Yes there is some danger that the army mounts another coup against him eventually, but he will have several years to run before then, and if it happens a Musharraf clone is as likely as anything the article fears. The bulk of the Pakistani population has no sympathy for those who murdered Bhutto. When asking them in a poll whether they support war against "the Taliban", it must be borne in mind that "Taliban" means "students"...
16 posted on 09/02/2008 8:57:01 PM PDT by JasonC
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To: nw_arizona_granny

ping


17 posted on 09/02/2008 9:00:55 PM PDT by DAVEY CROCKETT
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To: DAVEY CROCKETT

Bump.


18 posted on 09/03/2008 8:43:29 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=451 SURVIVAL, RECIPES, GARDENS, & INFO)
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