***yeah lets throw out the Bible...it just doesnt poll well.***
That would be total surrender - Jesus used gentle persuasion to teach us the error of our ways.
Redemption begins with facing reality - conversion follows.
Pile this on top of the low blow from TV's Alan Colmes who claims that Palin didn't practice proper prenatal care before she had the baby with Down's Syndrome, blaming the Mother for her disabled child. Well, the lefties don't know a low road they won't take. (Colmes' site has crashed right now, but this is the address if it ever comes back:
http://www.alan.com/2008/08/30/did-palin-take-proper-pre-natal-care/)