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To: Forest Keeper; Kolokotronis; Dr. Eckleburg; wmfights; xzins
Well, if it hasn't been done already, I'd feel much more comfortable responding if I had a quote to go from.

Oh, booohooo, FK. Google "Palin Iraq War God Plan" and see what you get...You can also hear it on Youtube. But, you are just stalling.

She said "Our leaders are sending them out on a task that is from God. There is a plan and it's God's plan."

She is implying that "our leaders" are acting on behalf of God. That's jihad, and blasphemy, while we are at it. Everything we like we "bless" with God's name. How convenient.

Just as evangelicals make themselves official mouthpieces of God, they also tend to equate the Administration with the people. Being as unpopular as our "leader" is, this is is a caricature of reality.

On the Pipeline she sad it was "God's will," and then added "God's will has to be done in unifying people and companies to get that gas line built. So pray for that. We can work together to make sure God's will [is] done here."

Maybe this kind of babble is coloqualism to evengelicals where everything has a God label attached to it, but to non-evangelicals this is a red flag big time.

There is nothing harmless about it and it is true only within the mindset of evangelical beliefs. The rest of the world begs to differ.

642 posted on 09/10/2008 4:09:33 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: Forest Keeper; kosta50; Dr. Eckleburg; wmfights; xzins

“She said “Our leaders are sending them out on a task that is from God. There is a plan and it’s God’s plan.””

Satisfied FK? Now, either she’s saying that its God’s will that Eastern Christians get whacked by our friends with our weapons and under our protection...or she’s uninformed and running off at the mouth. Either way, she’s unfit to be a “heartbeat away” from the presidency and a real danger to this country.


644 posted on 09/10/2008 4:18:50 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated)
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To: kosta50; Kolokotronis; Marysecretary; Dr. Eckleburg; wmfights; xzins
Oh, booohooo, FK. Google "Palin Iraq War God Plan" and see what you get...You can also hear it on Youtube. But, you are just stalling.

What are you talking about? Stalling? You made an accusation and I asked for a source. That's unreasonable? :)

She said "Our leaders are sending them out on a task that is from God. There is a plan and it's God's plan."

Thank you, although that is out of context. I just watched the Youtube clip and it has Palin PRAYING (asking for prayer) that the task our soldiers are on is of God. She says we should PRAY that what they are doing is God's plan. That is a wonderful thing to pray about. It boils down to a prayer that God's will be done. I saw nothing strange in her words at all.

She is implying that "our leaders" are acting on behalf of God. That's jihad, and blasphemy, while we are at it. Everything we like we "bless" with God's name. How convenient.

Looking beyond Youtube, Newsmax has the full appearance, and while I usually like Newsmax, their pull quotes are just wrong in this case. She is talking about what to pray for, she is not making blanket declarations. Listen to the full clip from Newsmax (about 7 and a half minutes). There is NOTHING comparable to "jihad" in the Newsmax clip.

Just as evangelicals make themselves official mouthpieces of God, they also tend to equate the Administration with the people.

Evangelicals ARE mouthpieces of God to the extent they relay what God's word is. They get into trouble when they claim to know God's motivations without scriptural backing. For example, "I KNOW that AIDS is God's punishment against gay people, or I KNOW that 9/11 is God's punishment against America." These "could" be true, but there just isn't enough evidence to say "I KNOW", IMO. I don't think the Palin clip goes this far at all on either subject.

On the Pipeline she sad it was "God's will," and then added "God's will has to be done in unifying people and companies to get that gas line built. So pray for that. We can work together to make sure God's will [is] done here." Maybe this kind of babble is colloquialism to Evangelicals where everything has a God label attached to it, but to non-evangelicals this is a red flag big time.

To us, everything DOES have a God label attached to it. God is sovereign. In her statement she asked for God to unify companies and people FOR THE GOOD of the people. I don't think it is terrible to suppose that the good of the people is God's will. That's what she was talking about. I don't think it's really that big a deal.

There is nothing harmless about it and it is true only within the mindset of evangelical beliefs. The rest of the world begs to differ.

I agree with you that DECLARING God's motivations without Biblical support should be a red flag. However, Palin clearly did NOT do that in the war clip, and on the pipeline her call for unity for the good of the people is perfectly in line.

676 posted on 09/11/2008 1:56:52 PM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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