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To: kosta50; Dr. Eckleburg; wmfights; Kolokotronis
Be it as it may, all I am saying is why not put God on everything? But you know just as well as I do that a label will not make something "holy?"

I'm not sure what you mean. The Founding Fathers, and the vast majority of American leaders, until relatively recent times, have all recognized that the Christian God is an intrical part of the fabric of America, the SOUL of America, if you will. Until liberalism gained a majority in power, leaders promoted the American belief that God is there. Politically supported actions such as the pledge and what is on the money serve as reminders. The Bible is clear that the human being NEEDS lots of reminders. If leaders are duly elected who happen to be Christians then I see nothing wrong with supporting reminders of our heritage as Americans. I think that the banning of God that you suggest is a denial of where our country came from.

610 posted on 09/10/2008 7:48:53 AM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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To: Forest Keeper; Dr. Eckleburg; wmfights; Kolokotronis
I'm not sure what you mean. The Founding Fathers, and the vast majority of American leaders, until relatively recent times, have all recognized that the Christian God is an intrical part of the fabric of America

The Founding Fathers did not mention a Christian God in the Declaration. They mention "Nature's God." Christ is nowhere to be found in that Declaration.

Until liberalism gained a majority in power, leaders promoted the American belief that God is there. Politically supported actions such as the pledge and what is on the money serve as reminders

God was added to the Pledge in 1950's. "In God we trust" was not on the coins of original United States currency; it was added in 1864 (under political pressure of various Christian groups).

The addition of "under God" was made by the (Catholic) Knights of Columbus in 1951. They started lobbying Congress to make the change official. The most influential element in the inclusion was a foreigner (native of Scotland) who personally influenced Pres. Eisenhower (1954) to include the "under God." After he signed the Bill approving the change, Pres. Eisenhower (a Presbyterian) wrote

The Bill was signed into law, 54 years ago, on March 10th, 1954. There was no God mentioned in the Pledge until 50 years ago.

God on the money had an even more diverse history. The Dollar Bill didn't get it until 1957. In all cases, These actions were not "politically supported" but politically imposed.

In 1864 (88 years after the Declaration of Independence) the motto in God We Trust was added to various coins. In 1883 it was removed from the nickel, only to re-appear in 1938. It was also not on the gold (Double Eagle) dollar coint of 1907.

President Theodore Roosevelet was against it (some liberal he was!).

He likened adding God on coins to a "cheap political motto."

The motto has been in continuous use since 1909 on one-cent coins, and since 1916 on dimes.

By contrast, paper money did not have "In God We Trust" until 1957 (first appearing on a 1-dollar Silver Certificate (which was abolished as a guarantor of dollar's worth by Richard Nixon, and replaced by "trust").

I think that the banning of God that you suggest is a denial of where our country came from

I will put myself in the company of such "liberals" as Teddy Roosevelet, thank you. The country did not find it necessary to add God to the coins for 88 years since it's declaration as a sovereign nation. It was an afterthought.

By your standards the country was founded on liberal principles. I think some are trying to re-write the history.

627 posted on 09/10/2008 12:12:18 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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