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To: Kolokotronis

Her question was: “Duly elected and God ordained.”

I paraphrased what she said: God-ordained = God scripted.

So, if there were a duly-elected, God ordained Orthodox president, would you have problems with that?

The first you can know, the 2nd you (as an Orthodox) would have to logic out on your own. That was what she asked.

Moving on to your other points:

“religious based theories of science.” That’s been shown in error. She said that if kids are seeing such discussions in the media or in the broader culture, then they should be able to discuss them in school. It’s “pro-discussion.” I see no problem with that.

Palin did not use the word “ordained,” Dr.Eckleburg did.

God and the pipeline: I haven’t heard that Palin made a public statement that God was behind her pipeline.

God and the war in Iraq: I haven’t heard that Palin made a public statement that God approves of the war in Iraq.

God and the war in Iraq is an interesting question to me, a chaplain and father/f-i-l of soldiers fighting/who have fought in Iraq. The real question is this: are we on the side of the angels?

I’d say that we are. My analysis of the just war theory at the time of this war beginning was that everything was in order for this to be a just war.


531 posted on 09/09/2008 8:31:15 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain Opposing -> ZerObama: zero executive, military, or international experience)
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To: xzins; kosta50

“God and the pipeline: I haven’t heard that Palin made a public statement that God was behind her pipeline.

God and the war in Iraq: I haven’t heard that Palin made a public statement that God approves of the war in Iraq.”

Speeches she made in an AOG church. The Alaska papers made a big deal of it. I think they still are.

“God and the war in Iraq is an interesting question to me, a chaplain and father/f-i-l of soldiers fighting/who have fought in Iraq. The real question is this: are we on the side of the angels?

I’d say that we are. My analysis of the just war theory at the time of this war beginning was that everything was in order for this to be a just war.”

Eastern Christianity, as you know, does not now and never has ascribed to the Western/Augustinian “just war theory”. I think its a safe bet that the now decimated Eastern Christian community in Iraq might argue with you about the justness of the war. Certainly our empowerment of Mohammedanism in Iraq hasn’t worked out well at all for them. In fact, Padre, our empowerment of Mohammedanism just about everywhere else seems to work to the disadvantage of Eastern Christianity. Is the devastation of Eastern Christian communities an acceptable cost of your “just war”, or of American foreign policy Padre? I don’t know what Palin would say. Maybe someone will ask her to ask God if the Iraq war would be so “just” if it were evangelical Christians whose communities were being attacked under the not so benign gaze of Washington.

Oh, and as I said, I don’t believe for one minute that God ordains who will be president of the US anymore than He does who the president of Iran or Russia is. There will never be a “God ordained” Orthodox President of the U.S. and if someone shows up who thinks he/she is that person, I pray he/she will be found mad and placed on permanent sick leave.


532 posted on 09/09/2008 9:04:06 AM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated)
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