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To: Forest Keeper; xzins; Marysecretary; kosta50
How long after election day do you think it would take Stevens to retire if Obama won? I'm talking lives here.

EXACTLY! And that's one of the most compelling reasons for voting for McCain.

I agree you can cut the sexism with a knife regarding Palin. Even that doofus, Peggy Noonan, couldn't resist getting in her snide jab.

It all goes to show you can't please all the people all of the time.

I think it's momentous for our country that a black man was nominated for President of the United States. But because that man is a socialist, the choice gets clearer every day.

And have we ever had such a pro-life ticket? Most Republican candidates barely give it lip-service. But McCain is no late-comer; he's always been pro-life. And between her own baby with Down Syndrome and her pregnant daughter, who is living life more affirmatively than Sarah Palin?

At the very least, Palin appears to be a person who lives what she says. How rare is that?

425 posted on 09/06/2008 9:59:27 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; P-Marlowe

Everything about Palin convinces me she’s the real deal.

McCain’s speech the other night convinced me in no uncertain terms that he’s a true believer in America AND in whatever else he decides is right. I know he’s the best the nation has on Defense/Military/Security issues. He really is a fiscal hawk. His pro-life creds are among the best.

His speech stood again for illegal immigrants, and he does believe in campaign finance reform. I disagree with both of those. On illegals IF the fence gets built first, and IF we end the anchor-baby practive, then I can stand behind a reasonable worker permit program that also allows those workers to apply for citizenship. I would ease the path for citizenship to any child of workers who (1)Serves in our military, and (2) learns our language.

On campaign finance, there is something in me that recoils at Soros (or any other individual or cabal) being able to buy elections by spending a billion dollars. The challenge is to preserve the first amendment AND prevent vote buying and front-end graft (buying access and favors BEFORE an election.) If it’s corrupt to pay off Congressman Jefferson while he’s in office, then it’s corrupt to buy him ahead of time via his campaign fund.


426 posted on 09/06/2008 10:20:37 AM PDT by xzins (ZerObama: zero executive, military, or international experience)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; Forest Keeper; xzins
I think it's momentous for our country that a black man was nominated for President of the United States

I won't argue with that. That's a legitimate objection.

But McCain is no late-comer; he's always been pro-life

I am not sure if it was across the board, as Gov. Palin is. He has also voted in favor of stem cell research while G. W. Bush opposed it.

434 posted on 09/06/2008 12:46:50 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; xzins; Marysecretary; kosta50
I think it's momentous for our country that a black man was nominated for President of the United States. But because that man is a socialist, the choice gets clearer every day.

Out of respect for Obama I will consider his candidacy as I would any other candidate. It just so happens that with me socialism is a pretty big strike against. :)

And have we ever had such a pro-life ticket? Most Republican candidates barely give it lip-service. But McCain is no late-comer; he's always been pro-life. And between her own baby with Down Syndrome and her pregnant daughter, who is living life more affirmatively than Sarah Palin?

I agree. Palin has PROVED that she walks the talk. And McCain has a long and strong pro-life record. Kosta is right, though, to raise the issue of embryonic stem cell research. I remember being very ticked at him when he voted for federal funding about 4 years ago. However, FWIW, this is what his campaign website says about it now:

Stem cell research offers tremendous hope for those suffering from a variety of deadly diseases - hope for both cures and life-extending treatments. However, the compassion to relieve suffering and to cure deadly disease cannot erode moral and ethical principles.

For this reason, John McCain opposes the intentional creation of human embryos for research purposes. To that end, Senator McCain voted to ban the practice of "fetal farming," making it a federal crime for researchers to use cells or fetal tissue from an embryo created for research purposes. Furthermore, he voted to ban attempts to use or obtain human cells gestated in animals. Finally, John McCain strongly opposes human cloning and voted to ban the practice, and any related experimentation, under federal law.

As president, John McCain will strongly support funding for promising research programs, including amniotic fluid and adult stem cell research and other types of scientific study that do not involve the use of human embryos.

Where federal funds are used for stem cell research, Senator McCain believes clear lines should be drawn that reflect a refusal to sacrifice moral values and ethical principles for the sake of scientific progress, and that any such research should be subject to strict federal guidelines.

This on the record, along with Palin at his side, makes me think that he's not going to try to pull anything that will anger us on this.

464 posted on 09/07/2008 6:49:35 PM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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