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To: kosta50
However, if it is true, than "saving faith" is an oxymoron.

Only if one does not believe the Bible.

In the Calvinist world, a saved infant is an exception to the rule.

Not so. Not for the Calvinist who knows from Scripture that grace saves; not faith. Grace alone saves whomever God decides to redeem through Christ. If it is His will, that can include babies as well as you or me.

But I see you didn't answer my simple question. Was David right to believe he would see his son again, or not?

Do you believe David was reunited with his son in heaven, or not?

383 posted on 09/04/2008 11:19:41 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Only if one does not believe the Bible.

As long as someone can be saved without knowng the bible, "saving faith alone" it is an oxymoron. Neither faith, nor works, nor the Bible can be the exclusive condition imposed on God for salvation.

Therefore "saving faith alone" is an oxymoron. Period. If you said "saving grace alone" that would be a different thing.

If it is His will, that can include babies as well as you or me

Yes, but that's outside of the "saving faith alone," and therefore represents an exception in Calvinism rather than the rule.

But I see you didn't answer my simple question. Was David right to believe he would see his son again, or not? Do you believe David was reunited with his son in heaven, or not?

You are changing your question. You asked "Kosta, was David right to believe he would see his son again, or not?"

I can't tell you if he was right or not. I have no access to God's saved list.

To your altered question the answer is the same. My sens of justice or my wishes have nothing to do with God's decisions. It's God's decision, and what I think is mere speculation. And so is yours, but it seems you haven't come that realization yet.

384 posted on 09/04/2008 11:43:29 AM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Not for the Calvinist who knows from Scripture that grace saves; not faith.

Wow, another malformed Calvinist doctrine. Amazing how many of those there are out there.

385 posted on 09/04/2008 11:46:16 AM PDT by Petronski (Zero-bama. All this time we thought it was an "O" but, nope, it's just a "0".)
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