However, my argument was really about "any woman" who has been attacked as she has been
And Obama wasn't? Did you feel the same urge to defend him against such attacks as you feel compelled to defend a woman you admit you barely know who she is?
Bottom line is, we all have our own filters and red flag triggers. They are assumptions based on previous experience or they are based on certain principles.
Let me just show you how the this double standard works. On August 29, Karl Rove explained on CBS's "Face the Nation" why Virginia Governor wasn't fit to be (Vice) President.
The town where Sarah Palin was a mayor is 15,000th by size, currently less than 10,000 people, compared to Richmond's 200,000, and her entire state has 680,000 people, compared to Virginia's 7.6 million (more than 11 times). Governor Kaine was a governor for 3 years, and Palin less than two.
How come Kaine is not "qualified" and she is? How can we sou quickly change our tune? Where is objectivity?
That's been debunked as the fraud that it is. Even the source for this lie has admitted it HERE .
The source did not lie. The source, which was official, the AIP secretary, provided erroneous information to the NYT. NYT simply reported what the official gave. As it turns out, the husband was a member of the secesisonist party until 2002, and Sarah Palin attended the Party's conventions 2000 "out of courtesy."
How would you look at her attendance, regardless of the reason, if this was a Communist Party convention? Everything points to the fact that she has good relations with this secessionist organization and doesn't mind welcoming its presence in her town or state (as in her recent 2008 TV welcoming address). Even your own link confirms that.
I remind you that the AIP president says "I am not American. I am Alaskan." And the AIP motto is "Alaska First" (compare to McCain's "Country First").
Going by registration records is pointless since Joe Lieberman demonstrated that one can be a registered Democrat and actively work and associate with a Republican Party and its platform. He even called on fellow Democrats to cross party lines for the good of the country.
Apparently Palin has had close and warm relationship with the traitors gathered around AIP when she couldn't even fathom that she would be thrust into partnership with a man she publicly disagreed with on more than one occasion.
Judging is fine, but at least have the facts
What are facts? Was she vetted on facts or on her apparent usefulness?
The pattern shows that she had closer relationship with separatist traitors than with the Democrats or even McCain liberal Republicans. She is an opportunist (which is a character trait no one should be proud of).
When Pat Buchanan visited her village shed wore his button "out of courtesy" as a mayor! Give me a break. Stupid Buchanan still thinks her and she are one! Apparently she has everything to everybody. That's one way to be popular.
I assert that it is unfair to judge her not capable because she has a family
And I assert that it is unfair to judge her capable because she has a family!
NO ONE knows what the dynamics are of the support system in that family
You make my point. Why is judging her worthy based on incomplete facts right and judging her unworthy isn't?
It could well be His plan that Obama be elected and that America suffer the consequences
You are beginning to sound like Pastor Hagee...you are scaring me, FK.
Her speech is in about an hour. I sort of feel invested now, so I really hope she does well
She did well, for the crowd she represents.
apologies for typos...way too late for me.
And Obama wasn't? Did you feel the same urge to defend him against such attacks as you feel compelled to defend a woman you admit you barely know who she is?
No one has attacked Obama for being unqualified for the Presidency because it would take too much time away from his being a good father to his two young girls. I would defend him if anyone did. I would also defend Obama if anyone brought up the race card or claimed he was a Muslim or any of that baloney. All of that is wrong, irrelevant and unnecessary to mount an effective case against Obama. Nobody argues the qualifications of McCain or Biden, but I agree with Newt that Palin is actually MORE qualified for the Presidency than Obama himself. :)
Let me just show you how the this double standard works. On August 29, Karl Rove explained on CBS's "Face the Nation" why Virginia Governor wasn't fit to be (Vice) President.
I know all about that and I saw Rove confronted with it last night. He chuckled a little bit as if he was beaten, and then said that they both made political decisions in their VEEP choices (even though Obama did not choose Kaine). I have no problem with Palin being challenged on the issue of experience. It IS an issue. However, I think it loses in a fair comparison here because she has more as number 2 than Obama has as number 1. Now, if their ticket was something like Richardson-Biden, then I wouldn't be talking so much about the experience issue, but I would still defend Palin against the sexism in the media.
How come Kaine is not "qualified" and she is? How can we so quickly change our tune? Where is objectivity?
Well, I've never said anything about Kaine, Rove did, and you don't expect him to be objective. :) Had Obama picked him my best guess at my response would have been that the pick had a weakness because Obama would have been doubling up on the inexperience issue. It's clear to me that he chose Biden in part for that reason. Palin doesn't hurt so much there because no one can argue about McCain's experience. Had their ticket been Richardson-Biden, then McCain never would have chosen Palin. (It was risky enough as it was. :) In that case he probably would have chosen Lieberman and exploded the party right there. :)
The source did not lie. The source, which was official, the AIP secretary, provided erroneous information to the NYT.
I am fine with folks making an error. However, ABC had this beaten down by 9/1, and I distinctly remember seeing it still being in the news as an allegation two and three days later. MESSNBC for example. THEY are the liars. I give the AIP person credit for coming forward and admitting the mistake, even though she's a nut. :)
How would you look at her attendance, regardless of the reason, if this was a Communist Party convention?
I would have looked at it as a deal breaker, and of course McCain never would have chosen her if this was the fact. That's totally different. Even the Secretary you mentioned earlier said that not all members are secessionists. What makes you say that "Everything points to the fact that she has good relations with this secessionist organization"? There is no everything. Let's be fair here. As I said before it has been PROVED that she has never left the Republican Party. I'd say there is more actual evidence that McCain almost bolted to run as Kerry's VP than there is that Palin has anything to do with the AIP. Did you watch that welcoming "address"? It was nothing, politicians do those all the time.
I remind you that the AIP president says "I am not American. I am Alaskan." And the AIP motto is "Alaska First" (compare to McCain's "Country First").
SO WHAT??? Palin has never been part of this group. Only people trying to smear her have attempted a link. She gave a 90-second-welcome-to-my-home-town-and-please-spend-lots-of-money-in-our-community-while-you're-here announcement and suddenly she wants Alaska to secede from the Union??? What is this? :)
Going by registration records is pointless since Joe Lieberman demonstrated that one can be a registered Democrat and actively work and associate with a Republican Party and its platform.
This is an alternate universe if you are trying to show something. Should I assume you are a Communist because there ARE NO RECORDS showing that you have ever belonged to the Communist Party? :)
BTW, Lieberman DOES NOT associate with the Republican platform. He is correct on the war, but otherwise far left through and through. Had McCain picked him, the Republican party would have exploded in revolt. The riots would have been INSIDE the building.
Apparently Palin has had close and warm relationship with the traitors gathered around AIP when she couldn't even fathom that she would be thrust into partnership with a man she publicly disagreed with on more than one occasion.
Show me "close and warm relationship with the traitors" relating to what they stand for. I've never seen this, and I assume that if there was anything there the drive-by media would have already been all over it. Let's face it, we're talking about some nuts here. If they had ever taken up arms, hurt anyone, or done any damage, and THEN after that Palin was friendly with them, THEN you're talking real news. You know, like William Ayers (which the MSM won't cover). And BTW, if Palin has publicly disagreed with McCain on more than one occasion then I like her even more. :)
Was she vetted on facts or on her apparent usefulness?
I assume both. That's what I would do.
When Pat Buchanan visited her village she wore his button "out of courtesy" as a mayor! Give me a break. Stupid Buchanan still thinks he and she are one! Apparently she has everything to everybody.
Are you kidding me? Palin is being billed as a total "Maverick" in her own right. Who besides McCain best deserves that label as far as current or former Republicans go? Of course it's Buchanan. I would EXPECT her to have sympathy for him. That's being consistent!
And I assert that it is unfair to judge her capable because she has a family!
NO ONE HAS SAID THAT! She's a sitting governor and a former mayor. She has a proven track record of routing out government corruption, heads a budget of over $11 billion dollars and is the commander in chief of the Alaska National Guard. Even in this summary, Obama can't touch any of this type of responsibility and accomplishment. As Hillary correctly noted about his qualifications, he made a speech in 2002.
She did well [in her speech], for the crowd she represents.
Yes, I completely agree given that she seeks to represent all Americans. I hope the following weeks have her proving herself worthy of being chosen and being qualified to serve with distinction as VP.