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To: muawiyah; houston1; microgood; highpockets; cookcounty; ikka
Okay -- I don't know the merits of this argument, but this is the argument I've read on various threads, and as I understand it.

If BHO was really born in Hololulu, he was a Natural Born Citizen when he was born.

But then his mom married Lolo Soetoro and moved to Jarkarta. Lolo (aka Leo) formally adopted the boy and filed papers for him as Indonesian citizen Barry Soetoro.

It is said that US law recognizes dual citizenship with other nations that recognize dual citizenship, and that Indonesia does not. Hence, the argument further goes, when Barry becomes an Indonesian citizen, he loses his US citizenship.

Then mom left Lolo and dropped Barry off with his grandparents in Hawaii. (Supposedly this is when he got the Indonesian passport, to go from Jakarta to Honolulu.)

When Barry turns 18, he can regain his US citizenship if he goes before a judge or authority and renounces the foreign citizenship and swears a Loyalty Oath to the USA.

But, the argument goes, this does not restore him to "natural born" status. He now becomes a [re-]"Naturalized Citizen."

Ergo, even if he restored his citizenship when he became an adult, he would be ineligible to run for president.

At least, that is what people are saying, citing INS code from the pertinent years.

Frankly, I don't know whether they're right or wrong. But what with the COLB mess and everything else, I wouldn't be satisfied unless either a high ranking INS official or a federal judge made a clear pronouncement upon the situation.

BTW, some say that besides the possible Indonesian citizenship, that (even if he was born in Honolulu) Barack Obama Sr. might have filed papers granting his son Kenyan citizenship -- and that Kenya also does not recognize dual citizenship. So that theory is out there, too.

20 posted on 08/28/2008 4:34:34 PM PDT by Dajjal (Visit Ann Coulter's getdrunkandvote4mccain.com)
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To: Dajjal
When Barry turns 18, he can regain his US citizenship if he goes before a judge or authority and renounces the foreign citizenship and swears a Loyalty Oath to the USA.

And a lotta people suspect that Barry mighta sorta forgot to do this.

22 posted on 08/28/2008 4:37:08 PM PDT by Dajjal (Visit Ann Coulter's getdrunkandvote4mccain.com)
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To: Dajjal

As I understand it Kenya has a law referred to as the
“Right of Soil” and “Right of Blood”. Therefore anyone born on Kenyan soil or due a Kenyan citizen is a citizen of Kenya. Either in Kenya or in Hawaii Obami is a Kenyan citizen via his biological father. The plot thickens....


24 posted on 08/28/2008 4:38:49 PM PDT by conservativegramma
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To: Dajjal
The misreading of the law occurs when they neglect the fact that the law simply does not recognize his or anyone else's assertion on his behalf of a foreign citizenship UNTIL HE IS 18.

His stepdad and Indonesia could bring in a thousand flying garudas, six Greek Naids, and a partridge in a pear tree and NONE of that would count.

25 posted on 08/28/2008 4:39:17 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Dajjal

There is something more to all this than whats on the surface because none of what is known would make someone HIDE this information.
Its what is still hidden that is the problem for Nobama-thats what needs to be discovered-

He just isn’t WHO he says he is, thats the reason for the forged certificate. no telling what his mom really did-and who this person claiming to be Obama REALLY IS-


34 posted on 08/28/2008 5:17:57 PM PDT by okokie
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