[Harvey105]

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LOL

If I am ‘deranged’, you are suffering from severe problems with reading comprehension.

First off, I said that based on the article there was room for doubt about happened. What’s not true about that?

I said that no man can be blamed for breaking — IF HE BROKE — under the torture that they endured. That’s not good enough for you?

BTW, last night in his speech he said that he did break. I don’t know what he meant exactly because he didn’t go into detail.

IF he did anything wrong in a prison camp under extreme duress, he can be forgiven — even if he doesn’t forgive himself. Tell me what duress he was under when he authored the horrible legislation and pursued amnesty while living in the comfortable confines of Washington DC.

THAT IS WHAT I CANNOT FORGIVE OR FORGET!

Got it?

And let me give you a little bit of advice. Quit trying to deliberately misinterpret what I say. You’ll be happier if you don’t twist yourself into knots while trying to pound me into the sand.

Now, tell me how someone who is dying and is getting no treatment and is eating the equivalent of ‘gruel’ at the hands of his captors, gets well? It doesn’t happen. Either he wasn’t as bad or he was getting treatment or both. That’s not an attack, that’s a medical fact.

BTW, George Washington — a man that I truly admire — did not chop down the cherry tree.

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Now, tell me how someone who is dying and is getting no treatment and is eating the equivalent of ‘gruel’ at the hands of his captors, gets well? It doesn’t happen. Either he wasn’t as bad or he was getting treatment or both. That’s not an attack, that’s a medical fact.

Here is an account from azcentral.

After six weeks in the hospital, McCain was taken to a prison camp known as The Plantation and placed in a cell with George "Bud" Day and Norris Overly, both Air Force majors.

Taking one look at McCain, Day was convinced that the North Vietnamese had brought McCain to their cell to die and planned on blaming the Americans.

"He was extremely skinny, and he was just about filthy," said Day, who after the war became a longtime Fort Walton Beach, Fla., attorney and veterans-affairs activist. "He had food and drink and liquids run all over his face. He had a pretty good beard. ... He probably weighed less than 100 pounds.

"He was in this great big white cast, and his hair was snow white. He just looked like he was absolutely on the verge of death."

Day said McCain's injured right arm jutted from his body cast like a stick "sticking out of a snowman."

But more than anything else, Day remembers McCain's eyes.

"His eyes were extremely bright; they had that real fever luster," Day said. "I just took one look at him and had no qualms that he was going to die, and soon."

Despite his poor condition, McCain still was happy to see fellow Americans. The men spent the night whispering among themselves.

By 6 a.m., Day was convinced that McCain had a decent chance to live, providing the fever did not get him. Slowly, McCain began to recover.

"He was just a very determined guy with a lot of spirit," Day said. "It's kind of like when you see a horse, a young colt, and you just know this is a strong-spirited animal. You could see all that in him."

If you want to call Bud Day's (Medal of Honor) first hand account a lie based on your extensive medical knowledge you are going to have a big problem with every Freeper here.