Rioting after McCain wins. Was this prophetic?

The recent race war in Cincinnati -- which is what it was -- might reasonably lead one to ponder the black underclass, its nature, behavior, crimes, and intentions toward whites. Permit me a few unpleasant observations, inescapable after years on the police beat:

Crime by the underclass is racial, predatory, and very much targeted against whites. The motive is hatred more often than economic gain. The media carefully, systematically, by deliberate policy, hide these things.

The foregoing can be independently verified by anyone. The data are there, on the Internet.

During the Cincinnati riots, I heard through police back-channels of blacks pulling white women from cars and beating them. I didn't write about it. If I had quoted my sources, they would have been fired for talking. Without sources, I'd have been dismissed as engaging in racist fantasy.

But then, on April 23, the columnist John Leo of US News and World Report broke journalistic ranks. * He wrote of one white woman (probably the one I'd heard about) who was attacked and beaten. More chillingly, he reported that "Another driver assaulted by the mob was Roslyn Jones, an albino black woman, hit by a hail of bricks, one of which struck her in the head. The attack stopped when someone shouted, 'She's black!'" (My italics.)

Rioting blacks regularly beat whites. We know about Reginald Denny, kicked into brain damage by gangs of blacks in LA. Similar instances have occurred from Los Angeles to Dade County to Cincinnati. All were quickly buried by the media. On the streets of Washington I have myself seen whites swarmed and beaten bloody on two occasions -- two young Australian tourists walking in Georgetown, for example.

The viciousness merits attention. Whites kids riot, yes, usually about politics. They run excitedly about, get arrested and gassed, wave signs, and assuage their hormones. They do not stomp people. White college kids do not grab an official of the IMF, kick him until he hemorrhages to death, and laugh.

The underclass does. When urban blacks surround a car, pull out a terrified woman they believe to be white, and hit her in the head with bricks, they're not playing. They want to hurt, cripple, kill. That's what bricks do.

The underclass is what we have in the cities. One day it will come out. We won't like it. They are not the nice black family down the street with the two polite kids and a Toyota. They are something very different.

In the recent Mardi Gras riots in Seattle, gangs of blacks again attacked whites. So many people saw it, and got it on videotape, that the media couldn't quite hide it. For example, blacks attacked a white woman, after which a young white guy tried to help her. They stomped him to death.** Press was minimal. Can you imagine the furor if whites had attacked a black woman, and murdered a black rescuer?

The media, again, are consciously lying about race. It is lying by crafted omission, by artful editing, but it is lying. If the police stop too many blacks on the highway, coverage is national and unending. If the underclass stomps a white to death, a hush follows.

Examples abound. In Wichita this year*** two black men captured five young whites at gunpoint, forced them to perform various sexual acts on them and each other, of course raped the women, and then killed them all, execution style, except for one woman. Bleeding and naked, she walked through the snow for help.

Two things: First, the motive was hatred. You can rob people without harming them. The attackers intended to humiliate and kill. Second, note the near perfect suppression of the story. If you heard about it at all, it was probably on the Internet.

The hatred of the underclass for whites is not new. Neither is the targeting of white women. In the Sixties the rapist and Black Panther Eldridge Cleaver wrote at length in Soul On Ice (chapter one), of the underclass black's desire to attack white women. Don't believe me. Read it.

The foregoing anecdotes are just that -- anecdotes. The Department of Justice, however, collects data on crime -- the Uniform Crime Reports,**** the National Crime Victimization Survey, ***** and so on. The author Jared Taylor ****** analyzed these figures and found that a black is 55 times as likely to attack a white than vice versa, 103 times as likely to rob, 40 times as likely to rape a white woman than a white man is to rape a black woman, and 237 times as likely to gang up on whites to rob them.

Now, I will be accused of racism for saying these things. All right. I hereby make a proposal to the NAACP: Let's hire a first-line accounting firm to make a study of the figures, and publish both its results and its methods. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, and will say so. Do I have any takers?

Nothing suggests that it will stop. I see no signs that the black underclass is shrinking, and many signs -- the huge number of children -- that it is growing. These people simply cannot be integrated into a techno-industrial European society. They bear no resemblance to middle-class blacks one sees in offices. They are parasitic, uneducable, criminally predatory -- and they hate whites.

As blacks grow in numbers, they take over city after city. While these governments are not of the underclass, and don't want riots, they will of political necessity support the underclass. And, I suspect, no blacks at all really like whites. The danger is that whites may weary of it. If they ever push back, the potential for irremediable, ghastly, self-sustaining conflict will be high. I'll guess the country couldn't recover.

It had better not happen, but it could. Any spark could light it. One day the underclass, rioting, may go into white neighborhoods to stomp and burn. They won't expect resistance, because they have never met it. I don't think Al and Jesse quite know how many deer guns, how many Weatherbys and .223s sit quietly in closets out here. If a mob comes toward a man's home, where his wife and children are, the results will be astonishing. The police will immediately polarize, black versus white. So will everybody else. Government will be irrelevant. And the whole country just might blow up.

“Hispanics like all other groups(except whites it seems) work as a race or ethnicity. They work to preserve their culture and/or race which by definition means not caring about preserving ours.”

This is true.

They are imposing their culture.

The key word is ‘imposing.’

We (an editorial ‘we’ of course)are allowing it.

Right now it is more or less a ‘peaceful’ imposition, but at some point — if demands are not met — there may be physical violence on a large scale.

This may be the legacy of our leaders welcoming illegal Mexicans over our borders, in order to exploit people for cheep labor.

People must come here with the intention to learn English and become full fledged American citizens.

Many Hispanics have done just that.

You might be interested in the following website:

‘You Don’t Speak For Me!’

http://dontspeakforme.org/ourstory.html

You may also like what I wrote about gangs such as M-13 — gangs that have set up shop in America — and the threat they pose to our law abiding society:

‘Where’s ‘Dirty Harry’ when we need him?’

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2038866/posts

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No, not destroying the country. Just causing problems a lot more than they are now.

I disagree. Most of those that become gangsters, criminals, or drug addicts end up in prison. After about age 35 the job working at the car wash doesn't look so bad if they get out.

Large urban areas? And where do you think most people live and work? Ever seen downtown Seattle after about 6:30 pm? Women try to get out of town before that.

As those areas gentrify, the police presence increases and the underclass is moved to abandoned areas because the cost of living there is affordable for them. IOW, they are isolated.

As the article points out, this is assuming a significant economic downturn - like we seem to be seeing unfold around us.

Why didn't crime shoot through the ceiling during the great depression? During that period there was 25-30% unemployment and yet crime did not change dramatically. I think it was because we held to our Christian values in large part. The risk of crime exploding is probably more a product of our society becoming more and more secular.

BTW, we are not even in a recession. The last qtr had 3.3% growth! The shift in jobs and skills is a never ending process that creates a lot of stress, especially for those that are responsible.

>>As those areas gentrify, the police presence increases and the underclass is moved to abandoned areas because the cost of living there is affordable for them. IOW, they are isolated.<<

The area is HIGHLY gentrified. None of “them” live anywhere near the area I am talking about. They take the bus. And there are LOTS of em. I’m speaking from experience about the downtown Seattle area. Years of experience. I get the distinct impression you have not dealt with this in ANY city. It is VERY common.

>>Why didn’t crime shoot through the ceiling during the great depression?<<

We were a different people then. We were a more religious nation. And it DOES matter. Think of it this way: What percentage of babies back then were born out of wedlock? How many generations back then had been raised on welfare and the entitlement state?

We are a different culture now and, in many ways, much more dangerous should things get a little dicey.

>>BTW, we are not even in a recession. The last qtr had 3.3% growth! The shift in jobs and skills is a never ending process that creates a lot of stress, especially for those that are responsible.<<

That paragraph I rack up to the old phrase “There are lies, damn lies and statistics.” Some of the governments figures are so startlingly out of touch with reality that NOBODY takes them seriously any more. Here: http://seekingalpha.com/article/86804-does-anyone-still-believe-there-is-no-recession

"It may be politically incorrect to say that, but I will agree with you. Lets also not forget that when the illegals and or hispanics move in, they actually OPEN THEIR OWN BUSINESSES, as opposed to the abandoned storefronts and occassional Asian-owned nail salon/take out joint that dominated previously."

I observed what you are referring to ... when I lived in Houston during the 80's and 90's.

There was a section of town, just west of Sharpstown (SW Houston), that began as a basically white-occupied place of moderately priced single family homes and many mid-range apartments and condos. I lived in the area at the time.

In the early 80's rather large numbers of blacks started moving in and the neighborhoods got increasingly more dangerous and the whites started moving out. Eventually it was almost all black and homes became unlivable and the apartment complexes deteriorated to the point that they closed and/or were condemned.

As the date of Hong Kong returning to Chinese rule approached, there was a huge influx of Chinese immigrants into Houston where there was already a good community of Chinese, Vietnamese, etc. Many of these immigrants had money. Almost all were hard-working and opened businesses.

They bought the properties that had been run down and reinvigorated the entire area. It was once again clean and a nice place to visit or drive through.

And, while it is considered taboo to say so these days, I never saw an area that improved or even stayed the same when large numbers of blacks moved in. It is sad, but completely true. I fully realize that there may be other parts of the country where what I have said in not the case.

Unless and until we can begin discussing these problems without being labeled racists or bigots, the problems will fester and increase. Having lived in the Deep South and Texas for almost my entire 50 years, I can confirm that there is a deep hatred of whites by underclass blacks and even some low-to-middle class blacks.

Actually, I'm a real estate developer and property manager in Chicago. I think if you take a close look at the crime statistics you will find the vast majority of crime is committed by the underclass on the underclass. As a neighborhood gentrifies violent crime stats go down. You may see increased burglaries and robberies, but rape and homicide decline.

We were a different people then. We were a more religious nation. And it DOES matter.

So why are you disagreeing with me. I pointed out to you the crime issue is more about secularization than economics.

>>will find the vast majority of crime is committed by the underclass on the underclass.<<

Yes, and Fred’s point is that if things get bad it will spread into “underclass on middleclass” crime.

>>So why are you disagreeing with me. I pointed out to you the crime issue is more about secularization than economics.<<

I am saying that with an economic crisis like the Great Depression (GD), coupled with our secularization, our ongoing collapse could get much uglier, crimewise, than the GD was.

“Even though bigger, might be better than a 9mm with kickback or whatever they do plus easier to aim.”

My unsolicited advice is that you “try on” different guns to see what suits you best. There are gun shops which have their own indoor ranges where you can test-fire a weapon before you buy anything. Talk to people who know what they’re doing about what your needs are and figure out what the best firearm is for you.

Practice firing whatever you end up buying. Get familiar with it - you don’t want to flinch when you squeeze the trigger “for real.” Learn how to take off the trigger lock (if you must have one) and load/cycle it in the dark, and probably a dozen other things.

Again, just my unsolicited advice.

Yes, and Fred’s point is that if things get bad it will spread into “underclass on middleclass” crime.

How does this isolated underclass get to the middle class. Except for areas that are going through the process of gentrification there is very little contact between the two groups.

I am saying that with an economic crisis like the Great Depression (GD), coupled with our secularization, our ongoing collapse could get much uglier, crimewise, than the GD was.

Where I disagree is in the premise that with hard economic times the underclass will expand and crime will grow. After the GD govt. installed all kinds of safety nets for individuals as well as business. Thus with a very severe recession we will probably see the role of govt increase and a loss of individual freedom but out of control crime is unlikely.

The underclass is not expanding. The underclass is already largely isolated. The underclass commits most of it's crime on itself.

In the South this is not true. They are spread far and wide in areas that are not large and/or urban.

My experience is in the midwest, predominantly in Chicago. In my area you will find middle class Blacks self segregating in communities that are pretty stable. The big problem is the underclass that has embraced lifestyles that make them unemployable. They end up living in ghettos. The ghettos are typically segregated from the community by abandoned industrial parks.

>>How does this isolated underclass get to the middle class.<<

Y’know, Fred does mention the utter separation in the Chicago area in one of his other articles. It is not that way in Seattle. The poor neighborhoods are close in and slowly being gobbled up by upper middle class homeowners. It has been amazing to watch since I was a commercial RE agent in the late 70’s to early 80’s. They have total access to all neighborhoods using various methods from busses to cars. The middle class interacts with them daily here. I saw it in Cincinnati and in Detroit as well, not to mention Newark.

>>The underclass is not expanding. The underclass is already largely isolated. The underclass commits most of it’s crime on itself.<<

So far...

Third, the fear of a growing underclass doesn't make sense. As a % of the population Blacks are less than they were after the Civil War. IOW, their numbers aren't growing.

If anything, the last couple of decades have seen the underclass shrink dramatically. Welfare reform has forced millions of Americans into actually becoming working, productive members of society, with an actual stake in the stability of our society. On the other end of the spectrum, longer prison sentences are keeping more and more of the destructive predators in jail and away from the rest of society. Crime rates have been trending down for over a decade.

Look at the effects in places like NYC and DC- previously-bad neighborhoods have been gentrified. Developers in DC are looking at frackin' Anacostia as the next frontier for office and residential development.

People should stop listening to the doom and gloomers.

It's not always easy to see the good in things. :)

Maybe it's just my personal experiences, but I interact with plenty of black people on any given day. I'm not going to claim "some of my best friends are black," but I live in a city where blacks are a (shrinking)majority. There is certainly a black underclass, but the criminals in that group are much more likely to prey on other black people.

This idea that the criminal element of the underclass is actually going to organize (like in that movie The Warriors) and take over the city is fiction. We're talking about criminals who have a tough time getting out of bed before noon and whose highest aspiration in life is getting a pair of shiny new sneakers, a 40-ounce of malt liquor and porn. People like that are never going to get their crap together enough to be anything other than a nuisance to regular society.

We're talking about criminals who have a tough time getting out of bed before noon and whose highest aspiration in life is getting a pair of shiny new sneakers, a 40-ounce of malt liquor and porn. People like that are never going to get their crap together enough to be anything other than a nuisance to regular society.

ROTFLOL!

Our experiences are probably pretty similar. I still remember in college I had to take Intro. to Sociology. The one thing I remember from that class was a study done in the 1800's found that prison inmates were dumber than the general population. It struck me how obvious that is. You have to be pretty stupid to keep walking down a path where the vast majority end up dead or in prison.

I meant to get back and thank you for your "unsolicited advice". Ya gotta start somewhere. I've gotten caught up in all the fanfare of late.

Honestly, I would rather not have to even consider going this route and maybe I'm feeding into fear, but should think about preparedness.

A one-shot shotgun even is better than nothing. Never been in a gun store in my life! Plus I would hope I would never, ever have to use it even on an animal. But things are so different now.

I just don’t get it though.

Jesse Jackson and Sharpton can’t seem to fathom that a race riot or war could end up getting them and a lot of blacks killed as ruthlessly as they promote riots and intimidation.
They see themselves as the Kings of Anarchy, but they are more a pawn in all of this than they realize.

What frightens me more is that blacks feel they have a right to believe and behave the way they do. There are so many racist hotheads and both sides are waiting for an excuse. Its frightening in the psychological sense, that blacks rape, shoot, steal, and then sincerely wonder why whites get angry and shut them out. If both sides erupt Hispanics and Asians are going to get dragged in and I have no idea how that would turn out. Sooner or later something bloody is going to happen.

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