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Military help for Georgia is a 'declaration of war', says Moscow
thisislondon.co.uk ^ | Wednesday 27.08.08

Posted on 08/27/2008 12:53:44 PM PDT by lizol

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To: Owl_Eagle
"I believe I speak for everyone here, when I say in these dangerous and uncertain times, we need a steady hand like Barack Obama's."

I hope your nose didn't damage your computer monitor when you typed that!

41 posted on 08/27/2008 2:24:05 PM PDT by Redleg Duke ("All gave some, and some gave all!")
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To: lizol

Get some russia our airforce and navy are completely free to pound you at will. They are not tied up at all.

http://images.military.com/Video/060719_lowdrag.wmv


44 posted on 08/27/2008 2:45:15 PM PDT by MARKUSPRIME
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To: jagusafr
I think we need to tread carefully here. The Israeli's had the same view of the Egyptians and their new SAM's back in 1973. There is no one to bail us out if things go badly.

The Athenian disaster at Syracuse in 415 B.C. also comes to mind. The Black Sea is a bad place of the US Navy to operate out of.

45 posted on 08/27/2008 2:46:33 PM PDT by Left2Right ("It's going to be a long eight years...")
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To: valkyry1
Russia is trying to start a war, that is certain.

Very doubtful.

They know full well that the West will do precisely diddly about the situation.

War is about conviction and will, and right now the West has neither.

Putin and his generals laugh...

46 posted on 08/27/2008 2:49:13 PM PDT by TChris (Vote John McCain: Democrat Lite -- 3% less liberal than a regular Democrat!)
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To: lizol

So how does the airpower thingy work out here? What would be the consequences for Tibilisi? I believe we have pledged the rearm Georgia. Medvedev gave an interview to BBC yesterday in which he stated that Georgia would not be permitted to rearm. So we’re going to wrestle with the bear in his own den, over Georgia’s determination to lord it over a “disputed territory” where it is despised, and from which it was ejected some 18 years ago? Yeah, let’s just follow the chest-pounders over the cliff. I’m sure the Poles and French will be right behind us.


47 posted on 08/27/2008 2:50:50 PM PDT by 1ifbyland
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To: lizol

This one is better quality

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vWfsUt_8NA


48 posted on 08/27/2008 2:56:14 PM PDT by MARKUSPRIME
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To: lizol
“Russia sought Chinese backing for its action - but the Communist regime in Beijing appeared reluctant to offer support, instead issuing a statement saying it was “concerned” about recent developments”.

Now that little tidbit jumped out at me......what do you think that could mean??....are the ChiComs looking for a little bear meat chunk for themselves in the east of russia ?? This is getting curiouser and curiouser

49 posted on 08/27/2008 3:03:03 PM PDT by mick
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To: lizol
Well, looks like they have drawn two lines in the sand. One in Poland and one in Georgia.

I say we return the favor. Say that any more arms sales to Venezuela, Syria, or Iran will be an act of war. For it seems that the Bear wants war.

50 posted on 08/27/2008 3:10:57 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: mick
Hmm.

It might mean that China is a little mad at Russia for distracting from their Games. This was China's coming out party, and that little dust up clouded it somewhat.

And it might mean that China is not happy that her ancient enemy Russia is getting warlike again.

51 posted on 08/27/2008 3:13:27 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: lizol

So much for Obambi’s “securing our nation’s future” message. McCain can start naming his foreign policy staff now, and the house and Senate can start planning out their foreign affairs committees memberships & chairs.


52 posted on 08/27/2008 3:13:53 PM PDT by sanchmo
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To: lizol

We need to send in TROOPS to GEORGIA - they are our friends - UNLIKE the Russia!!


53 posted on 08/27/2008 3:21:59 PM PDT by RightWingTeen (Support FREE education - Homeschool and FREE your kids from SOCIALISM!)
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To: ladtx
OK, Obama, what’s your answer to this?

His answer? "Uh, Um...we um, where is that teleprompter...umm, we need ...uh, ummm, what was that question again?"

After getting the question: "I hmmm, Ugh... I will have..hmmm... my friend Jimmy Carter go to Atlanta and talk to the Russians there." LOL

54 posted on 08/27/2008 3:25:45 PM PDT by RightWingTeen (Support FREE education - Homeschool and FREE your kids from SOCIALISM!)
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To: lizol

We need a good Obama speech and we need it now.


55 posted on 08/27/2008 3:50:56 PM PDT by Joan Kerrey
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To: lizol
[snip]Medvedev followed up on Rogozin's broadside with a threat to use the Russian military machine to respond to the deployment of the American anti-missile defence system in Poland and the Czech republic.

...and it means means war if they do so. Sounds like the Russian are becoming a rogue state on their own.

56 posted on 08/27/2008 4:09:15 PM PDT by The Toad
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To: LIConFem

“Kinda makes ya wonder if Patton wasn’t right.”

I’m certain Eisenhower was very wrong, and should have heeded Churchill’s counsel more closely. With every passing decade, Eisenhower’s legacy (like Carter and Clinton) diminishes in stature.


57 posted on 08/27/2008 4:15:15 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: Left2Right

If we were limited to naval/littoral ops, I would agree wholeheartedly. We shape the battlespace from ground to sea to air to space. I like our chances, even in the Black Sea area.

Colonel, USAFR


58 posted on 08/27/2008 6:12:00 PM PDT by jagusafr ("Bugs, Mr. Rico! Zillions of 'em!" - Robert Heinlein)
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To: lizol
Rogozin is a nazi. Here's his racist campaign commercial promisimg to sweep watermelon-eating immigrant "garbage" from Russia's streets. He is a good representative for genocidal Nazi Russia.
59 posted on 08/27/2008 8:42:25 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: jagusafr
"Call it sabre-rattling, it’s just fact."
Well, I don't have a saber to rattle, but I do have a longsword.

Does that count?
60 posted on 08/27/2008 11:11:25 PM PDT by Fichori (Obama's "Change we can believe in" means changing everything you love about America. For the worse.)
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