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US warships scrap visit to Georgian port-source
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Posted on 08/26/2008 1:54:10 PM PDT by maquiladora

TBILISI, Aug 26 (Reuters) - U.S. warships have scrapped a plan to deliver relief supplies to Georgia's flashpoint port of Poti on Wednesday, a source close to the U.S. embassy in Tbilisi said.

"The ships will not dock in Poti tomorrow," the source told Reuters, referring to a planned mission by the USS McFaul and another vessel.

Their presence would have been sure to enrage Russia, which has troops patrolling the port following a brief war with Georgia.

"There was a possibility that the McFaul might go to Poti but no-one has given us a final decision. We're not sure (if it's coming)," a US navy source told Reuters.

Pentagon did not confirm or deny scrapping the Poti visit.

"We're evaluating all ports for what makes the most sense for delivering relief supplies expeditiously," Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman told Reuters.

Whitman said the U.S. Coast Guard cutter Dallas was due to reach Georgia within 24 hours and that the USS McFaul had left the port of Batumi after unloading its aid supplies. He did not say where it had gone.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: blacksea; foreignaid; geopolitics; georgia; humanitarianrelief; poti; russia; shipmovement; ussmcfaul
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1 posted on 08/26/2008 1:54:10 PM PDT by maquiladora
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To: maquiladora

Appeasement......


2 posted on 08/26/2008 1:55:44 PM PDT by wk4bush2004
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To: wk4bush2004
Tactically a smart decision.

There's another port we can use and do an end run around the Russkies.

L

3 posted on 08/26/2008 1:57:43 PM PDT by Lurker (Islam is an insane death cult. Any other aspects are PR to get them within throat-cutting range.)
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To: maquiladora
Nuts. This is validating that Georgia does not control much of its territory beyond South Ossetia and Abkhazia either. Russia also appears to have freedom of movement of its units in much of Georgia. This could easily become a defacto conquest if they cannot be forced to withdraw.
4 posted on 08/26/2008 1:59:40 PM PDT by Truth29
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To: maquiladora

Blink first...


5 posted on 08/26/2008 2:00:36 PM PDT by traumer
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To: Truth29

Rumor has it that Russia wasn’t happy about it docking since it was carrying weapons. Looks like we either decided not to risk an ‘incident’ or maybe just still deciding what to do. The coming hours will tell. Either way, I’m sure there’s more to this than whats out in public.


6 posted on 08/26/2008 2:05:54 PM PDT by maquiladora
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To: maquiladora
Sure hope there is more to the story. Otherwise, we are recognizing effective Russian control of a major Georgian port and, by extension, other Russian activities well outside of the two disputed territories.

We continue to denounce and talk, but the more we talk and the more tangible actions the Russians continue to take in response. dramatizes our inability or unwillingness to stop the incursions. The very public Russian demonstration of Western weakness will have consequences well beyond Georgia.

7 posted on 08/26/2008 2:20:56 PM PDT by Truth29
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To: Lurker
There's another port we can use and do an end run around the Russkies.

Precisely. Why pointlessly infuriate The Russkies just for show? Moreover, though in dealing with them the rational person will always "trusts but verifies", why aren't we trying to win them over to our side in fighting our common enemy Islam? Or, must history repeat itself yet again: While West fights East, Islam benefits, just as happened in the 12th century?

8 posted on 08/26/2008 2:23:52 PM PDT by E. Cartman (Those who do not know history are doomed to repeat it.)
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To: maquiladora

No need for pulling a Wesley Clark II.


9 posted on 08/26/2008 2:26:50 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Rest In Peace, Capt. Ed "Too Tall" Freeman (1928-2008))
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To: maquiladora

My guess is we could probably dock in Poti but would have to leave any goods at the dock and not deliver them inland, in which case the Russians would have them.


10 posted on 08/26/2008 2:31:42 PM PDT by microgood
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To: maquiladora
Rumor has it that Russia wasn’t happy about it docking since it was carrying weapons.

Tough titty. We and the Georgians are not happy the Russians are blocking access to and patroling in the city either. We have more right to be there, weapons or not, than the Russians, since we are there at the invitation of the recognized government.

I guess when the Chinese put troops ashore in Baja, and they head north, you wouldn't want to upset them by sending armed ships to "monitor" their progress.

Of course it hasn't actually been confirmed that Dallas and McFaul are not going to put in to Poti. They still might, and they might just be waiting on the Mount Whitney and those German, Spanish and Polish frigates.

11 posted on 08/26/2008 2:56:43 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: maquiladora
Strange article. The McFaul unloaded its relief supplies at the Georgian port of Batumi two days ago.

USS McFaul Brings Aid to Batumi, Georgia

12 posted on 08/26/2008 2:57:20 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: wk4bush2004
Appeasement...

Sure looks that way.

13 posted on 08/26/2008 2:59:15 PM PDT by TChris (Vote John McCain: Democrat Lite -- 3% less liberal than a regular Democrat!)
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To: TigersEye

Yes, it docked in Batumi on Sunday and some supplies were taken off.

It then left Batumi early today and was due to travel up to coast to dock in Poti but now this is in doubt.


14 posted on 08/26/2008 3:10:01 PM PDT by maquiladora
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To: maquiladora

Sorry. I guess I missed that.


15 posted on 08/26/2008 3:12:04 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: maquiladora
Russian President Dmitry Medvedev has earlier accused Washington of delivering weapons to Georgia by sea, but made clear Russian ships deployed near the Georgian coast will not obstruct the operation.

"What the Americans call humanitarian cargoes -- of course, they are bringing in weapons," he told the BBC in an interview, adding: "We're not trying to prevent it."

We should take that as permission.

16 posted on 08/26/2008 3:15:04 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: Truth29

In reality, who would force them o withdraw?


17 posted on 08/26/2008 3:20:55 PM PDT by webrover
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To: Lurker
"There's another port we can use and do an end run around the Russkies."

Going to Poti should have been Plan No. 2 all along.

No. 1 should be going to Yurinul.

18 posted on 08/26/2008 3:24:31 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: Truth29
"The very public Russian demonstration of Western weakness will have consequences well beyond Georgia."

You're absolutely right. And it didn't need to happen. Nothing, I can think of, we have done in that part of the world has benefited us.

Putin is a predator. But he'll do business with anybody. It should have been us. That would have been to our benefit. Instead of getting involved with schemes of petty NATO members who can do nothing on their own and cannot be trusted. But that's simply a keyboard warrior's opinion.

19 posted on 08/26/2008 3:28:34 PM PDT by webrover
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“...and was due to travel up to coast to dock in Poti
but now this is in doubt...”
- - -
Who knows for sure what the McFaul was and is up to?
Certainly you and I know that her intentions will not
be broadcast in advance for the rooskies to prepare for.
Maybe since she was already unloaded
she just needed to move out of the way
to make more room for the ships coming in behind her?
Maybe she was just doing a little recon?
Maybe she was just messing with the rooskies minds?
Maybe she is playing a game of “if we do this”
then “what do they do”?
Or “if we do this”
then what intelligence about the rooskie command signals
can we detect and collect?
Or if we claim we are going to do this;
then what troop movements do the rooskies make?
My point being, we (you and I) do not really know what she is up to.
You and I are just observers of what we are fed from the news stories.
All we can do at this point is watch the dancers on the stage.
We are not privy to the screenplay or the script.
I expect more surprises over the next several days.


20 posted on 08/26/2008 3:31:07 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th
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