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There's a "live thread" for the Nazario trial HERE. We'll have news throughout the day.
1 posted on 08/26/2008 6:49:35 AM PDT by RedRover
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To: RedRover

Somebody call John Murtha as a witness. Apparently, he has solid reasons for his slanderous accusations and therefore he should be a material witness for the prosecution.


2 posted on 08/26/2008 6:51:25 AM PDT by bpjam (Drill For Oil or Lose Your Job!! Vote Nov 2008)
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To: RedRover

“He did not see them do it, Carlisle acknowledged”

So his testimony is worth......?


3 posted on 08/26/2008 6:51:57 AM PDT by dynachrome (Henry Bowman is right)
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To: 4woodenboats; American Cabalist; AmericanYankee; AndrewWalden; Antoninus; AliVeritas; ardara; ...

4 posted on 08/26/2008 6:58:55 AM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: RedRover; Lancey Howard; brityank; jazusamo; smoothsailing; 4woodenboats; lilycicero

There is only one question that I’d ask Carlisle.

“Did you see Sgt Nazario kill anyone?”

Perhaps I’d add: “Did you see Sgt Nazario even fire his weapon near the prisoners?”

Another: “Did you see anyone kill anyone?”

The storyline makes it clear that anyone inside that house had within minutes been actively engaged in trying to kill Americans, and their disposition was NOT one of prisoners of war.

They were attempting to fool the squad into believing they were non-combatants. Who knows what communication they had just made to other insurgents prior to the squad entering that building.

Nazario said that it never happened. I wonder if he means the entire event, or if he means only the killing of prisoners.

Any movement on the part of any of those insurgents could have been a pre-arranged signal. Any squad leaving that building could have meant pre-notified insurgents were to move into the building and free anyone left manacled. Any squad leaving that building with prisoners was to be tracked and killed now that the squad had been divided into prisoner guards moving to the rear and fire team moving forward.

It’s clear those men were fighters. The discharged weapons and other weapons prove that.

The only safe harbor for that squad was to move out of that building in force.

This sounds really jumbled though.

If some say there was a communication with higher, and the government insisted that was the reason for the prosecution, and now they’re not even pursuing it, then we’re left to conclude there was no communication because too many dispute it, most importantly, the radio operator.

If that story is false, then what other parts of the story are probably false. There can be no conclusion drawn, and Nazario’s version is as likely as anyone elses.

Not one person is testifying they saw him kill anyone.


7 posted on 08/26/2008 7:17:35 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain -- Those denying the War was Necessary Do NOT Support the Troops!)
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To: RedRover
Carlisle said he led Weemer, Nazario, Nelson, and two other Marines through the back door to discover four insurgents sitting unarmed on the floor

So Carlisle personally established the point of ingress/egress

Prentice and Carlisle left the living room seeking a way out of the house. They went to the front door first, but it was locked, Carlisle added. About that time they heard the first of a series of shots

Carlisle can't find his way out of the house? Why not leave through the same door he safely entered? I would think any new door would present a new challenge.

So if Carlisle isn't involved, where is he during the alleged executions?

“I was actually re-searching the rug room, and that’s when I heard the first gunshot and I came to find out what happened,” Carlisle said.

This testimony sounds contrived. Carlisle claims Nazario asked Prentice if he wanted to shoot one (and claims he had to urge Prentice not to) - why wouldn't Carlisle get the same offer?

Seems Carlisle is the only one in that house that isn't bent on killing "docile prisoners of war" according to Carlisle.

We know that Fox is dangling a murder charge over Nelson's head, a charge apparently so weak that the government will drop the whole thing if he just testifies that one of his buddies murdered someone.

We know this sleazy, despicable tactic is by design meant to generate confessions that someone else did something bad. It is a scare tactic used solely to score a conviction. It offers nothing in the way of truth and impedes justice.

I strongly suspect Fox of dangling the same rancid offer over Carlisle's head, and his garbled testimony lends that suspicion some footing.

18 posted on 08/26/2008 10:55:43 AM PDT by 4woodenboats ( MEJA is FUBAR DefendOurMarines.org DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: RedRover

Can you here us now Cong “Mullah-Omar” Murtha!

You lying sack of S***!


25 posted on 08/26/2008 4:23:47 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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