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Born in the U.S.A.The truth about Obama's birth certificate.
factcheck.org ^ | 8/21/08 | Jess Henig

Posted on 08/24/2008 7:40:05 AM PDT by TheNewPundit

In June, the Obama campaign released a digitally scanned image of his birth certificate to quell speculative charges that he might not be a natural-born citizen. But the image prompted more blog-based skepticism about the document's authenticity. And recently, author Jerome Corsi, whose book attacks Obama, said in a TV interview that the birth certificate the campaign has is "fake."

We beg to differ. FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship. Claims that the document lacks a raised seal or a signature are false. We have posted high-resolution photographs of the document as "supporting documents" to this article. Our conclusion: Obama was born in the U.S.A. just as he has always said.

(Excerpt) Read more at factcheck.org ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: 3dollarbill; barackobama; billayers; birthcertificate; certifigate; factcheckdotorg; marines; obamafamily
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I continue to run into people falsely claiming that Barack is not an American, he is a secret Muslim, yada yada yada. It is important to keep our focus on the truth instead of getting caught up in rumors and spin. Obama's stance on abortion, his economic policies, his desire for government run health care, his tax plan, his desire to dismantle the military, and other issues should be the focus.
1 posted on 08/24/2008 7:40:05 AM PDT by TheNewPundit
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To: TheNewPundit

I was a skeptic at first but frankly Obama needs to answer the charges and frankly I couldn’t care less what factcheck thinks.


2 posted on 08/24/2008 7:42:35 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Voting Conservative isn't for the faint of heart.)
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To: cripplecreek

Ditto to that !


3 posted on 08/24/2008 7:43:47 AM PDT by Dustbunny (Freedom prospers when religion is vibrant and the rule of law under God is acknowledged. The Gipper)
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I agree. This whole birth certificate issue isn’t a detour worth taken.


4 posted on 08/24/2008 7:44:38 AM PDT by MarkeyD (Steele for VP!)
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To: TheNewPundit

Obama released a forged COLB. That is a fact. And so called “Fact Check” is full of BS.


5 posted on 08/24/2008 7:44:44 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: cripplecreek

It will all come out with the current lawsuits being filed regarding this.


6 posted on 08/24/2008 7:44:52 AM PDT by Justeggsactly
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To: TheNewPundit

I’m sure Barack’s birth certificate is *just* as genuine as the Chinese gymnast’s.


7 posted on 08/24/2008 7:45:19 AM PDT by bolobaby
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I have no problem in focusing on the presumptuous one, Hussein(peace on him) and his MARXIST philosophy.

He is not fit to serve in this country as dog catcher, much less as POTUS.


8 posted on 08/24/2008 7:45:52 AM PDT by Howie66 (To the RAT Party: How can I question your patriotism? You have none, so what's your point?)
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Here ya go. Catch up on the real story.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2066515/posts


9 posted on 08/24/2008 7:46:03 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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Factcheck appears to have a good case. However, I’d like to know if any of the “researchers” the produced this report once worked for 1) any of the networks or 2) any of the MSM. If the answer is yes for either, I withdraw my trust, since these clowns have repeatedly demonstrated their lack of talent, ability, and honesty.


10 posted on 08/24/2008 7:46:27 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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While I think Obama should and will be defeated on an issues and character based campaign, the irony would be TOO sweet if he was disqualified over this.

In his first State Senate campaign in Illinois, he had all four of his opponents disqualified on signature challenges, including the woman who had paved the way for him to take her seat and introduced him to all the “right” people. (She was leaving her State Senate seat to move up to a Illinois congressional spot, but lost...she tried to get back into the race and was tossed out, Obama refused to step aside and had her signature list challenged...:)

So yeah, I agree with you on one level. But it would be lots of fun to see him say “But...but...but...” as it dawns on him he is going to be disqualified on a technical challenge. He had no problem at all doing it to others...

I can just hear the caterwauling now...:)


11 posted on 08/24/2008 7:47:01 AM PDT by rlmorel (If they can call George "Dubya", we can call Barack "Hussein")
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a.) This has already been posted ad nauseum, i.e. “search is your friend”

b.) ‘Factcheck.Org’ is about as objective about Obama as the Tobacco Institute is about lung cancer and cigarette smoking.

Happy to help.


12 posted on 08/24/2008 7:47:52 AM PDT by mkjessup (Jimmy Carter is the Skidmark in the panties of American history. (Obama is his 2nd term))
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Forget this. Let him run.


13 posted on 08/24/2008 7:48:25 AM PDT by ryan71
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To: Justeggsactly

I don’t like the precedent being set here. Seems like birth citizenship should be proven without a doubt before a candidate is even allowed to enter the race.


14 posted on 08/24/2008 7:49:00 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Voting Conservative isn't for the faint of heart.)
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Why, if it had access to the original documents, didn’t Factcheck.org simply provide complete front-and-back high-res scans? Why only a single photograph of the front being held aloft at an angle, and why only excerpts of the seal and signature, which could have come from anywhere?


15 posted on 08/24/2008 7:49:13 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Barack Obama--the first black Jimmy Carter.)
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To: pissant

My understanding is that the picture as posted by Obama’s c campaign is identical to the forged one, but cropped.


16 posted on 08/24/2008 7:49:19 AM PDT by TommyDale (I) (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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To: MarkeyD

The Republican party doesn’t need to waste its time. Just send some dedicated and intelligent volunteers out on this, and continue on with the campaign with no further attention to it, unless those folks return with a fish.

They don’t really need that fish, though. There are plenty of torpedoes out there to sink the SS Obama.


17 posted on 08/24/2008 7:50:45 AM PDT by rlmorel (If they can call George "Dubya", we can call Barack "Hussein")
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FactCheck.org shows no results for a search criteria of "Larry Sinclair". Why? Was Barry in Gurnee, Illinois in 1999? Who was his limo driver? Where is Barry's travel records and meeting schedules? What was the "degree of separation" between murdered gay choir director at Rev Wright's church and Barry? What about the other murders of gay church members in a 40 day period, all characterized as "execution style"? When asked about drug abuse, is Barry on record saying the last "experimental use" was 1999? If so, with whom, who provided it, and where?

If Larry Sinclair isn't even considered a "smear", is this episode simply a quirky and exotic pit stop in Barry's Wild Ride to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue?

18 posted on 08/24/2008 7:51:51 AM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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This is the same thing Jean Kerri did with his military records, when the Swift Boaters, more than a hundred honorable veterans, demanded that he should release his Form 180.

Instead, kerry provided SOME of his military records to two of his most trusted left-wing friends in the media, and lo and behold they said he was clean! Only trouble was, Kerry still refused to release his full records.

Same with Obama. Take note of the disclaimer at the foot of this web page: “Copyright © 2003 - 2008, Annenberg Public Policy Center of the University of Pennsylvania
FactCheck.org’s staff, not the Annenberg Center, is responsible for this material.”

Walter Annenberg was an honorable man, as was pointed out on another thread, but many of the organizations he donated to have become tools of the left. Obama and his good friend Ayres the Pentagon bomber ran such a left wing organization at the U of Chicago, also an Annenberg outfit.

In other words, these are Obama’s left-wing associates, busy lying for their buddy. If there were any truth to this story, then why does Obama still refuse to release his birth certificate? These guys claim to have “seen” it. So, where is it? Why won’t Obama give permission for some trusted neutral party to approach the state of Hawaii and get the actual, certified documents?

This is nothing but a lying scam, unless Obama can PROVE otherwise. Repeating it and repeating it means nothing. Let’s see the Form 180. Let’s see the certified birth records. Let’s see the proof that Obama, an Indonesian citizen, filled out the papers to reclaim American citizenship.


19 posted on 08/24/2008 7:52:27 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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Factcheck.org admits they have not seen the ORIGINAL birth certificate. What they have seen and touched is a modern era “short form” that was created many decades later.

They “never got an answer” from Hawaii why they cannot see the original long form birth certificate (they themselves did raise the distinction and “pose” the question).


20 posted on 08/24/2008 7:52:51 AM PDT by weegee (The higher taxes that Obama demands of Americans are 'Above my Pay Grade'.)
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