Posted on 08/23/2008 7:40:52 AM PDT by WilliamReading
The situation is far worse than 99% of the people understand.
And part of the reason is that gross deception like that which is manifested in this piece are the order of the day in American politics.
Exactly so.
“The bottom line is that not a single child will be saved by voting for McCain rather than Obama. Not one.”
Not true. Have you ever heard of the Supreme Court? Do you know how they get on the Court? The President nominates them.
It’s all in the Constitution.
I have been a pro-life voter since I was 18 and first voted. My number one priority in a candidate.
Seven of the nine sitting justices were put there by Republican Presidents, mostly more conservative ones than John McCain will ever be on his best day.
And not one of these "justices" has the brains, the principles, or the courage to stand up against their fellow judicial oligarchs on behalf of the personhood of the unborn. All but one are basically legal positivists.
More than any other thing I know of, this fallacy is what is destroying the foundations of our liberty, as our country continues to be daily steeped in the blood of the innocents.
And so, any claims you make along this line consequently leave me cold.
Stephen A. Douglas ????
Of the 1858 Lincoln-Douglas debates ?????
If you don’t remember, Romney saw a little baby in a woman’s womb with ultrasound. That changed his mind totally and existentialy. That is the point. There is no going back at all. Every woman should have an ultrasound to see the little baby growing inside her and watch the monitor. It’s clear.
Romney changed his position after seeing an ultrasound/
In the slavery debate, the central moral question of the day, Douglas came down on the side of states’ rights as being supreme to the unalienable rights of human beings.
In the abortion debate, McCain, Ron Paul and others take the exact same position.
Saying “Let the states decide,” when you’re talking about the God-given and therefore unalienable rights to life and liberty of the people is at best a gross misunderstanding of what America is, and at worst a cynical ploy that serves as an excuse to ignore the demands of your sacred oath of office.
That’s what makes this piece of writing so horrid.
Judge Blackmun, the author of the majority decision in Roe v. Wade, said in the text of the decision that if the unborn child was a PERSON, they were therefore protected by the Fourteenth Amendment.
John McCain, by now saying that life begins at conception, is admitting that they ARE a PERSON, but in any numbers of his policy positions says that you can still kill them!
This is wicked, and represents the destruction of the very basis of our liberty as described in the Declaration of Indendence.
There’s no getting around it: McCain is WORSE than Blackmun.
Romney “changed his position” after seeing polling numbers that proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that his decades of extreme leftism and radical support for abortion, the gay agenda, gun-banning, socialized medicine, etc., wouldn’t sell in a Republican presidential primary.
Wake up.
Romney changed his position after seeing an ultrasound/
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When was that ?????
Source ???????
Romney changed his position after seeing polling numbers that proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that his decades of extreme leftism and radical support for abortion, the gay agenda, gun-banning, socialized medicine, etc., wouldnt sell in a Republican presidential primary.
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Yes...
I saw an ultra sound in 1978...my youngest child...
But decades before that I knew “it was a child”
Even in 2002, 25 years later, Romney was still ignoring the fact that the being in the womb was a baby, anjd argued for the right to be an abortion pushing Gov of a liberal state...
Since Romney is too stupid and to uneducated to know the contents of the womb is a BABY..
He is too stupid and uneducated to be VP and maybe POTUS
can he even find his dog house door ????
How stupid do you have to be not to know WITHOUT seeing an ultra sound that there is a baby in there ???????
Romney saw a little baby in a womans womb with ultrasound.
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When was that ?????
Source ????????
In the slavery debate, the central moral question of the day, Douglas came down on the side of states rights as being supreme to the unalienable rights of human beings.
In the abortion debate, McCain, Ron Paul and others take the exact same position.
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So does Romney......
“But people need to wake up and quit allowing themselves to be deceived “
I really don’t think the majority of FReepers are deceived. I believe many are voting AGAINST Obama, and personally, I will make my decision based on who McCain picks as running mate.
McCain is more pro-life than Obama is, but Hitlery is more pro-life than Obama is. Big deal.
One would wonder, then, why he would then make exceptions for rape and incest.
I have no desire to abandon common ground with anyone who thinks that, but it does represent my profound disappointment with McCain as a leader or as an intellectual. He is wholly incapable of consistency on this issue, because he does not understand it. If he does not understand it, he cannot defend it properly, and he unwittingly gives credence to the idea that abortion is just a matter of personal choice.
Because of the principle of self-defense, the exceptions for rape and incest must remain legal ... pregnancy does increase mortality thus a female who is raped or parents who discover pregnancy due to incest must be able to protect. BUT, if the pregnancy termination does not happen early, immediately, then the self-defense should not be an automatic death sentence for an innocent other. And again, exceptions should not argue the rule.
The principle of self-defense does not apply here, because the baby is not responsible for the attack on the mother. The baby is the result of the attack, and thus should not be held responsible for the actions of his or her parents.
Thank you for expressing your opinion, calmly. I have expressed my opinion,a lso. The complexity of rights is not easily settled, but it’s certain the current state of the issues is screwed up to a demonic level. And the Democrat candidates for Pres and veep take a question of when the unborn should have rights and twist it to address the issue of when an indiviual life begins in order to obfuscate as much as possible to protect the evil we now endure.
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