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To: BobbyT
If someone sells at the market price tomorrow, 5 times more shares of a major bank than exist, what will the stock close at?

Will anybody panic?

Ordinary speculation is fine. Naked shorting without first borrowing the shares isn't.

Everyone said it was important, not enough of it happening, won't make a difference. Then the SEC issued a letter, and stocks that were down 80% in six months moved 30% in a day.

Those engaged in this sort of thing are not few, are not capitalists trying to make an honest living, and are not friends of the United States.

Please wake up. We are at war.

13 posted on 08/21/2008 11:42:00 PM PDT by JasonC
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To: JasonC

First off, you can’t sell huge volume at one price. You can’t even sell a moderate volume at one price. That price only exists for a small quantity...you just take it for granted that you can sell Google at the quoted price because you’re moving such insignificant size.

The second someone tries to move real size, they’ll have to start paying down into lower bids. On top of that, if they’re anything significant, bids will cancel. That means they’ll be selling at bad prices.

There’s an entire category of counter-trend traders who make their living solely on taking the other side of a bad buy/sale. My job consists of doing that in US Treasury & Eurodollar spreads every night. Every night we see guys trying to bully the market. They push a trade down, we start buying, and if they’re big enough they might make us take some heat.

But they eventually have to buy their stuff back...and their fighting all the traders who see such a cheap deal and hop on it. The more they sell to try to force it down, the more they have to buy back. Occasionally we get smoked if the guy can push it far enough, but meanwhile we take money out every single day based on people pushing trades out of line. When you distort the market, the market takes notice and corrects.

The only way the guy who’s selling (or buying...but you don’t hear people complain about “naked longs”) can make money is if it’s a LEGITIMATE move. IE, the market is wrong and he’s right...so if you’re the genius who identifies that Enron is worth pennies on the dollar (or that Microsoft is worth a thousand times its IPO), then you SHOULD make a killing because the market price is wrong and SHOULD be that much lower (or higher).

TANSTAAFL applies, as always.


18 posted on 08/22/2008 1:26:51 AM PDT by BobbyT
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To: JasonC
Those engaged in this sort of thing are not few, are not capitalists trying to make an honest living, and are not friends of the United States.

Please wake up. We are at war.

Russians? Middle East Investment funds?
Using our own markets to harm the United States

24 posted on 08/22/2008 3:17:18 AM PDT by dennisw (That Muhammad was a charlatan. Islam is a hoax, an imperialistic ideology, disguised as religion.)
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