[UCANSEE2]

OK. Somewhere on the staircases in the M.C. Escher picture, we must have walked past each other.

Maybe I was not clear enough, or maybe it was you.

You said “That wasn’t the question Shrodinger was asking. The basic question was what determines the wave function collapse and what role the observer plays. “

I thought I made it clear that I agree that ‘the observer influences the outcome’.

Which is not what the Copenhagen Convention indicated, nor Schrodinger, nor Einstein.

The truth is, they were all wrong.

[LeGrande]

I thought I made it clear that I agree that ‘the observer influences the outcome’.

Which is not what the Copenhagen Convention indicated, nor Schrodinger, nor Einstein.

The truth is, they were all wrong.

Huh? That is precisely what the Copenhagen convention determined. And what Einstein reluctantly had to accept (many years later) when he ran out of arguments.