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To: hocndoc
The Creator of the universe is necessarily super-natural or outside of nature. (While it should have been obvious to me, I learned this logic reading “Miracles,” by C. S. Lewis. I highly recommend it.)

I have thank you : )

As for our Cat, he’s either alive or dead. We humans just don’t have fine enough instruments to measure his status (yet). You just have to think in bigger numbers.

No you missed the point, the Cat is alive or dead, our measurements don't matter. That was Schroedingers contention anyway.

Altruism and conscience are discussed as physiological and evolutionary tools all the time in the scientific literature, in order to prove that there’s no such thing as free will.

In scientific literature? What does Feynman have to say on the matter?

182 posted on 08/24/2008 2:57:39 PM PDT by LeGrande
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To: LeGrande

I believe Schroedinger’s point was that the cat became certainly dead or alive - at least in this universe - only when we open the box, when we measure. Until then, there was a possibility that he was either.

Unfortunately, Feynman’s dead. I would like to know what he says about the nature of the universe, now. While alive, he was a brilliant man, and I read two of his autobiographical books to find that he was also witty. However, even he couldn’t explain to me how something came from nothing “in the beginning.”


185 posted on 08/24/2008 3:09:32 PM PDT by hocndoc (http://www.LifeEthics.org (I have a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.))
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To: LeGrande

And the whole point of the Schroedinger Cat theory is totally missed by most scientists, and most who discuss it’s application.


194 posted on 08/24/2008 4:36:27 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Blind, 6y.o. female jackbooted ape, always on the computer, watching "F.R.")
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