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Lieberman burns his bridges: Will speak at RNC
AmericanThinker.com ^ | August 20, 2008 | Rick Moran

Posted on 08/21/2008 3:32:29 AM PDT by Man50D

Even though he was a Democrat, I've always liked Joe Lieberman.

He "got it" on many issues near to my heart; the trashing of our culture, the importance of Israel as an ally, our role in a dangerous world. Lieberman sees many things clearly - even though his is a huge union booster and an advocate of top down solutions to social problems.

Kicked out of the Democratic party for his apostasy on the Iraq War but still allowed to caucus with the Dems so that they could maintain their majority in the senate, Lieberman can see the writing on the wall as well as anyone. The fact is, the Democrats will almost certainly not need his vote to maintain a majority next year after the GOP loses at least 2 seats and perhaps as many as 6 in the senate. And Lieberman knows that there are several Democratic senators who covet his Homeland Security chairmanship as well as his seat on the Armed Services Committee as well.

This means that come 2009, the Democrats will publicly humiliate Lieberman, emasculating him by stripping him of his plum committee assignments while the liberal netroots who hate Lieberman almost as much as they hate Bush cheer them on.

Recognizing his position, it appears that Lieberman is about to throw his lot in with his good friend John McCain - if not as Vice President (many believe him to be McCain's first choice but simply not possible under the circumstances) then as a major backer on the sidelines and possible cabinet member in a McCain Administration. Lieberman is scheduled to speak at the Republican convention:

The AP is reporting that Lieberman has accepted a speaking role at the convention, time and date to be announced. It will almost certainly be a prime time slot.

Do not expect Zell Miller like fireworks denouncing liberals. Lieberman just isn't that sort of Democrat. He is a classic liberal in the mold of a Hubert Humphrey; an optimist whose deep religious faith informs his politics as much as any evangelical Christian. Would he consider joining the Republicans in 2009? He may. But there are many on the GOP side who don't want him. He would be by far the most liberal Republican legislator in Washington and would therefore be an embarrassment at times. Therefore, it is likely that Lieberman will remain an "independent" but may caucus with the GOP for purposes of the leadership votes and other party line matters that come before the senate.

It goes without saying that the Democrats are going to be livid with Joe. But considering the invective hurled at him by his critics already, what more can they say to hurt him?


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Connecticut
KEYWORDS: 2008rncconvention; crossovervote; ct2008; demsformccain; lieberman; mccain
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To: Man50D

Joe Lieberman = Shape Shifter

I would hazard a guess that this won’t be his last incarnation. Hopefully the McCain/Lieberman ticket will fare better than the Gore/Lieberman ticket. :)


21 posted on 08/21/2008 4:17:49 AM PDT by DoingTheFrenchMistake
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To: Man50D

IMHO Lieberman is a whore, who once was “solidly” pro-life, but in order to become Algore’s Veep candidate, threw all the babies under the bus and flipped to pro-infanticide.

If McCain is brazen enough to pick either Lieberman or Ridge, I’m brazen enough to stay home on Nov. 4th, and here is why:

If Mr Straight Talk’s pro-life answers at Saddleback were no more concrete than to allow him to pick a pro-choicer as his Veep, then his pro-originalist position on Supreme Court Justices; his anti-wasteful government spending; his secure-the-borders; and his strong-national-defense positions are also just a load of phoney baloney, momentarily-convenient, tell-them-what-they-want-to-hear BS, too!


22 posted on 08/21/2008 4:21:16 AM PDT by Tucker39 (Darwin, Huxley, Sagan, et al began believing in God and Creation after 5 seconds in Hell!)
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To: Man50D

When Congress reconvenes, Joe should start caucasing with the GOP, thereby tipping the balance in the Senate back to the Republicans and giving Harry Reid indigestion for the next few months.


23 posted on 08/21/2008 4:24:59 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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To: Man50D

Unless he’s going to start by apologizing for being perhaps the single human responsible for keeping Clinton’s corrupt hiney in office, and reverse his bankrupt position on abortion, I’ll not be too impressed with anything Liarman has to say. In fact, were I there, I’d be tempted to boo.


24 posted on 08/21/2008 4:27:21 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
Joe should start caucasing with the GOP, thereby tipping the balance in the Senate back to the Republicans and giving Harry Reid indigestion for the next few months.

A socialist caucusing with the GOP doesn't give me the warm fuzzies.
25 posted on 08/21/2008 4:29:29 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: Man50D
It goes without saying that the Democrats are going to be livid with Joe.

I doubt he really cares after they tried to run him out of politics with Lamont.

26 posted on 08/21/2008 4:36:41 AM PDT by edpc (@#&!*$)
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To: Man50D
Joe Lieberman was Al Gore's VP-

He was complicit in the Gore-Lieberman 2000 dem campaign in Florida to disenfranchise military absentee ballots.

I cannot forgive Joe Liebrman for this because he has never admitted what the dems tried to do and apologized. In fact, he has overstayed his time with the democrat party. What has that been about- principles?

Godspeed to Joe Lieberman but some of us do not forget.

27 posted on 08/21/2008 4:37:54 AM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: Man50D
No, that's not the point. Joe is probably in his last term as Senator since he knows that his career is at a virtual dead end because of Reid and company. Consequently, he has nothing to lose right now, which makes him dangerous for the Rats.

And if it means inflicting maximum damage on Reid in the Senate if Joe comes over to the GOP side, then so be it, especially if it opens up some opportunities for eeking through new drilling legislation. It's not like we don't know what he is, so the GOp has nothing to lose by leeting him caucus with it.

And although I absolutely do not agree with Joe's politics, I do respect him for his hard line against Islamic terrorism and his strong faith. I do believe that he is a good guy, and do not personally dislike him because he's wrong on so many domestic issues.

28 posted on 08/21/2008 4:40:42 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
And if it means inflicting maximum damage on Reid in the Senate if Joe comes over to the GOP side, then so be it, especially if it opens up some opportunities for eeking through new drilling legislation. It's not like we don't know what he is, so the GOp has nothing to lose by leeting him caucus with it.

Won't make any difference. Because of the rules changes the Democrats retain leadership through 2007 even if Lieberman switches parties. And considering the number of seats the Democrats are favored to pick up in November then losing him won't put the GOP in power in the next Congress either.

29 posted on 08/21/2008 4:44:16 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Man50D

O.K., let’s do an informal poll here. What effect will Lieberman speaking at the Convention have on McCain’s Campaign?

HELP

HURT

NEITHER?

Though I’m not crazy about Lieberman, I say HELP.


30 posted on 08/21/2008 4:47:41 AM PDT by no dems ("Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice...." Barry Goldwater)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
It's not like we don't know what he is, so the GOp has nothing to lose by leeting him caucus with it.

With all due respect this is where you and I part company. If the GOP has nothing to lose by having a socialist caucus with them only confirms the GOP has indeed already abandon any conservative ideals and has moved to the socialist left.

And although I absolutely do not agree with Joe's politics, I do respect him for his hard line against Islamic terrorism and his strong faith.

While no one has to my knowledge questioned his faith, his stance against terrorism is another matter. He is trying to sell people a bill of goods with his supposed strong stance on national security.The terrorists who were planning to attack Fort Dix in New Jersey entered the country as illegal aliens and yet Lieberman favors amnesty for illegals. His stance on terrorism is dangerous for the country.
31 posted on 08/21/2008 4:49:34 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: no dems
Though I’m not crazy about Lieberman, I say HELP.

That could very well be but then it only proves how far to the left the GOP has moved.
32 posted on 08/21/2008 4:51:06 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: Man50D

Well, I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree on this one.


33 posted on 08/21/2008 4:52:57 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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To: Man50D

Ugh. While I like that he’s logical on the war there’s nothing else about the guy that I find positive. If the GOP is going to have a Democrat speak at the convention, I’d prefer Zell. Again and again and again.


34 posted on 08/21/2008 4:57:55 AM PDT by manapua
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To: Man50D

Are these the bridges like the RAT Party running a candidate against him and then campaining against him in the CT US Senatorial election? He could probably live with fewer of those “bridges”.


35 posted on 08/21/2008 5:16:12 AM PDT by rod1
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To: Man50D

Lieberman should begin caucusing with the Repubblies the Monday after the convention and, for at least a few months, give the Senate majority back to the good guys. I’d love to see Harry Reid apoplectic. Then we can introduce legislation and at least control things for awhile.

Sound unfair? The Dems did it the Repubbies in Bush’s first term when they bribed Senator Leahy to declare independent.


36 posted on 08/21/2008 5:19:42 AM PDT by tom h
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37 posted on 08/21/2008 6:45:02 AM PDT by RetSignman (DEMSM: "If you tell a big enough lie, frequently enough, it becomes the truth")
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To: Man50D

I don’t think his speech has anything to do, so much, with the Pubbies as it will in winning over Indys and Dems.


38 posted on 08/21/2008 7:03:29 AM PDT by no dems ("Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice...." Barry Goldwater)
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To: RetSignman

In all honesty, he is willing to change parties but I don’t see him changing his principles and core values. He still supports abortion and same-sex marriage.

What core values has he changed?


39 posted on 08/21/2008 7:05:25 AM PDT by no dems ("Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice...." Barry Goldwater)
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To: RetSignman
Yeah, he's a real opportunist. What could have been a more winning position that to support President Bush and the Iraq War? Joe sure knows how to compromise his principles to win votes. Right?


40 posted on 08/21/2008 7:10:24 AM PDT by Cinnamon Girl (Welcome home, former McCain haters and rageaholics!)
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