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To: flyfree
I'm still trying to figure out where the 'charismatic speaker' thing came from, teleprompter or not.

I can't stand either Obama or Bill Clinton. But Clinton has a certain charm, even if you do feel the need to bathe after listening to him.

I've heard Obama-lama-ding-dong speak both with and without the Magic Teleprompter, and he comes across like a bag of bricks. What am I missing?

There's no there there. Is everyone just so ecstatic that he doesn't sound like a blood from the 'hood that they overvalue his speaking abilities? Someone enlighten me, please.

11 posted on 08/20/2008 10:27:20 PM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: Lizavetta
Is everyone just so ecstatic that he doesn't sound like a blood from the 'hood that they overvalue his speaking abilities?

I think you've got it there. I could say more about Obama and the level of expectation regarding him, but that'd probably be racist, don't you know.
19 posted on 08/20/2008 10:41:39 PM PDT by mrsmel
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To: Lizavetta

“I’ve heard Obama-lama-ding-dong speak both with and without the Magic Teleprompter, and he comes across like a bag of bricks. What am I missing?”

I think it has something to do with white guilt and the perception that now our boy has moved off the reservation and isn’t it nice to see him be so eloquent.

I was listening to a lecture on Frederick Douglas who studied the famous writings and speeches of the past (in a battered used book he was not supposed to have). After his escape, he was a forceful articulate speaker, but the abolitionists at the time wanted him to represent the typical “darkie” of the South in speech and mannerisms. He would have nothing of it. I got to think such wooly headed thinking applies to Obama as well (he is a black man so I would not expect to hear him speak well - so even if he is marginally good with a teleprompter, it is like he is the 2nd coming because of low expectations).

I am surprised that an individual with Obama’s training (Ivy league Liberal Arts (Political Science) and Law degrees) is not a better extemporaneous public speaker. I mean I would have thought he would have debated in High School and college given his chosen major. He should have had a bunch of rhetoric classes as well.


26 posted on 08/20/2008 10:48:15 PM PDT by exhaustguy
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To: Lizavetta
I've heard Obama-lama-ding-dong speak both with and without the Magic Teleprompter, and he comes across like a bag of bricks. What am I missing?

... the Kool-Aid, I guess. I just heard some clips that Mark Levin was playing tonight, and Obama's speaking style is abysmal. All he does is fish for hot buttons to excite the crowd, but in the clip, he wasn't getting them! For example, he was talking about "winnin'", as in "I don't have anything against winnin'." This was supposed to draw a cheer, but it didn't. He had to reiterate to get a lukewarm response. This was all part of the "McCain doesn't know what he's up against" bit. It was really dismal. I get cold sweats thinking that this mope could be elected president.

33 posted on 08/20/2008 11:36:25 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: Lizavetta
I agree with you! Obama’s delivery is basically flat and sometimes he ends a statement with his pitch rising, as if he's asking a question. Listen to him say,

“I don't want them punished with a baby!” and it comes out like, “I don't want them punished with a baby?”

Without the teleprompter, though, it's almost excruciating to listen to him. I just want it to stop.

Lord, have mercy on us!

36 posted on 08/21/2008 12:13:05 AM PDT by Shelayne (After seeing Obama without teleprompter, I think the tingle on Chris Matthews' leg is probably pee.)
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