Posted on 08/20/2008 7:12:04 AM PDT by T-Bird45
I am aware of that. as long as they conduct legal searches and investigate within legal means I have no issue.
You must have loved the Clinton-years with all that "For the Children" B-S.
The dead girls are a tragedy but the cops must play by the rules.
Really?
How about trying to find the murderer?
In neither this article, nor the one from yesterday did any of the OSBI agents manage to get a quote in edgewise about the $25,000 reward for information on the slaying.
They were killed in town. How about getting someone to come forward who thought they heard gunfire? Who saw a speeding car?
How about mentioning that in these articles instead of focusing on law-abiding gun owners?
You forgot to address the Second Amendment right to own that BMW, as you spit on the grave of all those millions who willingly gave their lives to prevent this kind of tyranny to occur.
Police checking on those who didn’t ‘volunter’ indeed.
Threats overt and covert are made during these chats, the coercion factor is high, and they work things so that the citizen feels heavy pressure to “volunteer”.
They are not using the volunteers to find the perpetrator, they are narrowing the group of people they need to strongarm into getting their firearm tested and inspected, while they are inside the courthouse or governmnet building, where some subtle interrogation can be applied without the bother of a warrant.
How right you are!
Wonder when they're going to show up in SD, and ask me if they can check mine?
You never know; it could have sneaked out one night, and hitched a ride with a rogue SUV...
Live Search Maps found 3890; it is two turns off I-40 and crosses I-40...
What are the chances the guns are registered lawfully to the killer?
What are the chances the police will misuse a registry of personal data about law abiding citizens? If identity theft of you social security account doesn't scare you, just think of your gun rifling data being reassigned.
By my calculation refusing to voluntarily add oneself to the registry is in one's best interest.
Tyranny is trying to find out who executed two girls on the side of the road?
That’s rich.
Maryland has required ballistic fingerprinting on all guns sold there for ages. And I don’t believe it’s solved a single crime.
The TV crime dramas like to make it look like it works, but it’s really just as subjective as polygraphs.
Basically, if your gun is ‘close’ then it’s your word against the ‘experts’ and you better have a rock solid alibi or you’re screwed.
They can come to my house. I can ask if they have a warrant. If they so no then they can leave. If they want to question me I say sure, with my lawyer present. If they ask why I need a lawyer I say the same reason so many of their fellow officers ask for one or a union rep when a cop is called in for a hearing.
You mean like they do in Britain, the bastion of the surveillance camera?
If it were a kitchen knife, could they go door to door asking people to have their knives tested for blood? Their hands, while they are at it?
Or maybe, like the Skakel case (I think), if the weapon were a golf club, then you could ask everyone who has a three iron to come on down to the station.
To make people a suspect because they legally own something is a little off. And asking for a ballistic test is making you a suspect.
One thing that's upsetting is the gun registration angle, which most FReepers dislike. If we had centralized registration, this would happen lots more often. They went knocking doors of AR15 owners during the Maryland sniper case until someone videotaped their interaction with the authorities.
If the police showed up at your door asking to see your gun “just for some testing”, would you comply without considering the risk you are taking?
Ballistic “fingerprinting” accuracy is way overblown, they could easily get a hit on your .40. How many times have they tested James Earl Ray's gun, and arrived at different conclusions? Now you are a murder suspect because some tech sees unique identifiers in your gun barrel, or on the ejected rounds, because you volunteered and in so doing waived some rights and guarantees.
Ah, but I am allowed to have an attorney present.
And you have already gone beyond the circumstances of this investigation so your suppositions are just chat room fodder.
“On what authority? “
If you are an FFL, the government can inspect your 4474 books any time, you cannot say no.
I have a friend that got rounded up in a bad situation just like that. FBI showed up cause he sold parts similar to one used in a crime across the country.
The lawyer fees weren’t pleasant. The lawyer fees were *REQUIRED* due to the constant threats and intimidation.
Those 15 people are in for a world of hell for months and maybe years.
You are right. The police is stupid. Please do us all a favor and take over the investigation...
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