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McCain takes 5-point lead over Obama-Reuters poll
Reuters ^ | 08/20/2008 | John Whitesides

Posted on 08/20/2008 4:48:47 AM PDT by safetysign

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To: Owen
The problem with variable mix is that poll to poll you may see huge variation of party mix and this cannot reflect national opinion — because people just don’t change their party affiliation that frequently.

Must be an election year, DNC Owen is back to tell us why black is white and down is up.

Boy are you confused Owen. You got it exactly backwards. What you said above is what critics say about Rassmussen's Party Mix methodology. He polls from time to time to find out what the party mix is then uses that in all his polls. So his party mix ratios change based on who answer the phones which he then uses in all his other polls. You criticism is valid, if you level it AT Rasmussen instead of in defense of him

As usual, your DNC Masters talking point is exactly backwards to reality.

201 posted on 08/20/2008 8:33:14 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (http://www.iraqvetsforcongress.com ---- Get involved, make a difference.)
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To: All

One more thing. Re: Hillary.

She would be a formidable VP nominee.

But more to the point, her planning on 2012 is not a great plan. Losing the nomination this year was a DISASTER for her. 2012 will have her either facing a Democrat president running for re-election, or if McCain runs again, an incumbent opponent perhaps presiding over a recovering economy (the cycle being on an uptrend by then).

This was her year. The future is far less favorable.

And yes, there’s no question that she can not have it this year. She would lose all the black votes. They would never tolerate a backstab to Obama (unless he is taken “ill”).


202 posted on 08/20/2008 8:33:21 AM PDT by Owen
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To: safetysign

Shocking (in a good way) if I believed it.


203 posted on 08/20/2008 8:39:17 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Yes on CA Prop 4. (Family notification on underage abortions))
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To: gridlock
If they have the guts to go with Hillary?

Denver is going to burn.

204 posted on 08/20/2008 8:39:18 AM PDT by ASA Vet
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To: COBOL2Java

Palin is another great choice.


205 posted on 08/20/2008 8:52:02 AM PDT by RightWingTeen (Caution: homeschooled teen with a Brain that works - LIBERALS you can't control me!!)
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To: austinaero

“I don’t think the riots can be avoided. They will either happen at the convention or after the general election.”

If they happen after the election, it’ll be so cold that several dollars in damage may take place!


206 posted on 08/20/2008 8:57:55 AM PDT by Panzerlied ("We shall never surrender!")
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To: Norman Bates

Norm can you image what the numbers are now?


207 posted on 08/20/2008 8:57:58 AM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E. That spells free. freerepublic.com baby)
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To: safetysign

Hillary will be on the ticket.


208 posted on 08/20/2008 8:59:12 AM PDT by gathersnomoss (General George Patton had it right.)
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To: steveyp

Yes, definitely expect a bounce after the convention (unless denever is burned to the ground).


209 posted on 08/20/2008 8:59:33 AM PDT by Canedawg
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To: nikos1121

Do not forget voter fraud and Veterans votes that will not be delivered in a timely matter.


210 posted on 08/20/2008 9:02:44 AM PDT by gathersnomoss (General George Patton had it right.)
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To: G.Mason

Exactly. This is always a fight for good vs evil.


211 posted on 08/20/2008 9:04:47 AM PDT by gathersnomoss (General George Patton had it right.)
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To: safetysign

It’s zogby so I take it with a grain of salt....but it IS likely voters too so it could be true.


212 posted on 08/20/2008 9:09:42 AM PDT by Grunthor (A government big enough to give you what you want, is powerful enough to take it away)
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To: safetysign

Obama’s pay grade just got lowered.


213 posted on 08/20/2008 9:16:09 AM PDT by Paradox (Politics: The art of convincing the populace that your delusions are superior to others.)
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To: jalisco555
I have to agree with you. It blows my mind, but Obama makes Hitlery look QUALIFIED. For real she would have been the tougher fight. 100% for certain tougher. Obama, hes gonna fold under the pressure, he doesn't have the SUBSTANCE for this in the least.

Heck, he can't, as a clearly RICH man, help out his destitute family members in Africa and Italy. What the hell makes anyone think he's gonna help out Americans he doesn't even have a BLOOD connection to? Insanity! LOL

Go John!

214 posted on 08/20/2008 9:18:45 AM PDT by Danae (A Taxpayer voting for Obama is like a Chicken voting for Colonel Sanders)
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To: Miss Didi

And the fact that it is Karl Rove who said it means that the left might avoid her like poison, LOLOLOL!

Experience is relative: HRC probably IS more experienced than Obambi, Kaine, and certainly more visible than Sibelius, Biden, or Dodd.

Personally, I still think the veep pick will be Richardson.


215 posted on 08/20/2008 9:25:48 AM PDT by alwaysconservative (Does this post make my carbon footprint look big?)
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To: steveyp
Lower numbers pre-convention, bigger bounce post-convention.

The convention is shaping up to be a disaster. It'll be dominated by the Clintons, the loonies will riot in the streets and be embarassingly idiotic, and the huge arena acceptance speech is going to turn people off.

216 posted on 08/20/2008 9:29:37 AM PDT by hsalaw
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To: safetysign

The Democrats would be smart to do so.

Hillary would win this election.


217 posted on 08/20/2008 9:36:08 AM PDT by zendari
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To: safetysign

But Obama is the most popular celebrity in the world????


218 posted on 08/20/2008 9:36:44 AM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: Numbers Guy

Zogby is a partisan Democrat, and he cheats, but in this poll he may be giving good numbers in order to help Hillary, if he sees Obama as a loser.


219 posted on 08/20/2008 9:44:20 AM PDT by Defiant (The Obamessiah creed: There was a pedophile named Mohammed, and Obama is his messenger.)
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To: alwaysconservative
Poor Bill, nobody is saying boo about him. Rush is playing some great sound bites of Joe Biden...he has always used the expression “above my pay grade,” too.
220 posted on 08/20/2008 9:44:36 AM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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