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DEVIL SENT DOWN TO GEORGIA - RUSSIA UNLEASHES CHECHEN THUGS
nypost.com ^ | August 18, 2008 | Ralph Peters

Posted on 08/19/2008 5:43:16 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

OVER the weekend, photographic proof emerged that the Russians used mur derous Chechen mercenaries to do their dirtiest dirty work in Georgia: The ragtag unit in question is so vicious that, last April, Chechnya's Russian-installed "president" demanded it be disbanded.

War snaps taken by Russian photojournalist Arkady Babchenko have been circulating among intelligence personnel. The shots reveal far more to the West than Babchenko realized.

Amid photos of the horrors of war, grateful South Ossetians and triumphant Russian troops, one series leapt out at me as a former intel officer: Bearded irregulars riding atop Russian-built armored vehicles (old BMPs, for the military-hardware buffs). The vehicles had been splashed with white lettering.

What did the scrawls announce to the world? These thugs proudly proclaimed that they're Chechens serving in the Vostok ("East") Battalion commanded by Badrudin Yamadaev - who shares a reputation for gangland violence with his brother, Ruslan.

Last spring, mercenaries from the Vostok Battalion indulged in a bloody gangland shoot-'em-up in the city of Gudermes, near their home turf. The mafia-on-steroids brutality was too much even for the Chechens (which is quite a standard). The province's puppet president publicly begged the Kremlin and its generals to disband the unit.

The generals refused. At the time, their stubborn support for the outlaw Yamadaev Brothers seemed baffling - a quiet Chechnya was a longstanding Russian goal. But last week, it all made sense: Putin's military, which had been planning the invasion of Georgia for many months, intended to unleash the worst criminals in uniform it had on the Georgian people.

Why?

Two reasons: First, Prime Minister Vladimir Putin wants the Georgians to suffer - to really suffer. And Chechens are the world's subject-matter experts in atrocities.

Second, this gives the Russian army itself a veil of deniability....

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: caucasus; chechens; crimeagainsthumanity; genocide; geopolitics; georgia; islam; mohammedanism; ralphpeters; religionofpeace; russia; southossetia; warcrimes
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To: nw_arizona_granny
Lastly, for the mome, This:

Human rights groups like the Soldiers’ Mothers committees believe that as many as half of those drafted should not have been because of poor health, and even the General Staff announced this time around that 30 percent of those it was calling to the colors should not have been.

And when I think of those pugnacious, self-righteous prig groups in San Francisco whining about the VOLUNTARY ROTC. Our military doesn't do the hazing Russia does. And these synaptically addled lefties in the Bay Area won't say a damned word about what is going on in Russia.

I'm calming myself down at moment. Because if Russia is indeed so slap happy about issuing Passports to "people it likes". Then no doubts the rogue Chechnya butchers would find San Francisco a very hospitable place to visit.

San Francisco: No military, no self-defense weapons, no brains. Ahhh.. a thug rogue dictator's paradise... He'll be a real hit at the S&M clubs. But what'll he make of the Castro... perhaps he'll find it necessary to institute some reforms...

41 posted on 08/20/2008 3:34:32 AM PDT by Alia
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To: Tailgunner Joe
From your post:

Basayev led an “Abkhaz Battalion” in Georgia in the early nineties and with the Russians exterminated and ethnically cleansed hundreds of thousands of Georgians from Abkhazia.

42 posted on 08/20/2008 3:38:17 AM PDT by Alia
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To: FreeReign
Thank you for your post.

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After the Chechyan terrorist attack on the No. Ossetian school, U.S. Special Ops trained and worked with several Georgian battalions to clean out Georgia's Pankisi Gorge of Chechnyan terrorists.

The U.S./Georgian program, operated from 2002 to 2007. It cost the U.S. $64 million and approximately 200 Special Op troops. The gorge was pronounced free of terrorists when the program ended.

How does Putin thank the U.S. and Goergia for what they did? He sends Chechnyan terrorist into Georgia to terrorize Gergian civilians.

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43 posted on 08/20/2008 3:39:51 AM PDT by Alia
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To: DJ Taylor

Can anyone identify the weapon this Russian is holding on Georgian prisoners? ==

I can. I guess it looks like VSS Vintorez. http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn20-e.htm


44 posted on 08/20/2008 4:51:46 AM PDT by RusIvan (Saakashilli is should be tried as the war criminal)
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To: RusIvan

Yep, that’s it. Here’s another link: http://world.guns.ru/assault/as10-e.htm


45 posted on 08/20/2008 4:55:59 AM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: Alia

Asidem: So this is why the Dems want the DRAFT brought back into America? So America can be more like Russia?<<<

I have watched the dems for years and they follow the communist tracks to a ‘T’.

Russia and Venezuela took over the private companies and now our elected fools want to take over the oil companies.

Today Venezuela took over the mines for cement that Mexico had in Venezuela.


46 posted on 08/20/2008 12:52:28 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=451 SURVIVAL, RECIPES, GARDENS, & INFO)
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To: Alia

That assertion raises several questions: is Kadyrov seeking to round up the entire male population between 17 and 28 and ship them out of Chechnya to serve elsewhere in Russia in order to deprive the North Caucasus resistance of potential recruits?<<<

The Chechnya citizens are not happy with Kadyrov, they say he is serving Russia and not Chechnya.

I can imagine Kadyrov wanting to deplete any of an age to fight back. Which will entice more to join the radical jihadis.

They have always felt that way.

To me there are 3 classes of citizens, the ‘real ones’, the radicals who came in to take over, after the big war with Russia and the Russia supporters, which of course contains Chechen people and the usual Russians that were moved in by the Russians to take over the country.

I still have a lot to learn, as I knew almost nothing about Chechnya, until I went looking for the articles on Nord Ost Theater and talked to Svni, a survivor of Nord Ost, who lost her daughter there and her American fiancee. [sp?]

Svni is /was a freeper and you should find the early threads that were posted by Struwwelpeter. [Which I may have also mis-spelled]


47 posted on 08/20/2008 1:04:08 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=451 SURVIVAL, RECIPES, GARDENS, & INFO)
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To: Alia

I’m calming myself down at moment. Because if Russia is indeed so slap happy about issuing Passports to “people it likes”. Then no doubts the rogue Chechnya butchers would find San Francisco a very hospitable place to visit.<<<

In San Francisco they would be welcomed with open arms, hold a big parade and collect money so the butchers could visit the rest of America....

Yes, I agree with you, San Francisco will wake up, when it is too late and too many others have paid the price for their stupidity.

LOL, just in my opinion, of course.


48 posted on 08/20/2008 1:07:24 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=451 SURVIVAL, RECIPES, GARDENS, & INFO)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

I’m LOL with you... what else can anyone do to wake up the moonbats?


49 posted on 08/20/2008 4:28:21 PM PDT by Alia
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To: Tailgunner Joe
I have been wondering myself whether the Chechen (?) terrorists who committed numerous atrocities, including Beslan, were working for the Russian government and not against it.
50 posted on 08/20/2008 5:25:21 PM PDT by Christopher Lincoln
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To: DJ Taylor
It is the AS Val (Avtomat Spetsialny) introduced in the 1980's for Spetsnaz and recon troops. It fires a cartridge that is basically the AK 7.62x39mm necked up to hold a 9mm pistol bullet, so it will be just subsonic but will still have enough impact to be deadly at close to medium ranges. It is quiet, for whatever purposes one needs a quiet weapon.
51 posted on 08/20/2008 6:48:51 PM PDT by Sender (Never lose your ignorance; you can never regain it!)
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To: DJ Taylor; kenth; RusIvan
On second thought, that is indeed the VSS (Vintovka Snaiperskaya Spetsialnaya) sniper version of the AS Val.
52 posted on 08/20/2008 7:05:51 PM PDT by Sender (Never lose your ignorance; you can never regain it!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

mark for later


53 posted on 08/20/2008 7:21:14 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (Happiness is a choice!)
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To: Alia
My assumption is that neither the Russians nor Chechens are happy with the arrangement, but it serves both side's short term interests, and so shall remain in effect until such time as that is no longer the case. In that regard I see it as not much different from our arrangements with some Afghan warlords.

As far as my opinion of the veracity of official Russian statements, what we can verify doesn't inspire much trust, and as far as who's causing the lion's share of the mayhem, I expect that will become apparent over time, and have no doubt that the primary responsibility for failing to reign it in will be properly laid at the feet of someone wearing a Russian uniform.

54 posted on 08/20/2008 7:26:40 PM PDT by Hoplite
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To: nw_arizona_granny
The Chechnya citizens are not happy with Kadyrov, they say he is serving Russia and not Chechnya.

Well, he is serving Russia. And it provides the Chechnya army with "jobs". Makes me think of Dems and their love of Minimum Wage and what that does to any location, over time. There's an initial influx of cash; but the entire area becomes depressed as the leverage of cash ultimately suppresses market activity and growth. Unfortunately, the same holds true in re Chechnya and "jobs" via Russia's army.

I still have a lot to learn, as I knew almost nothing about Chechnya, until I went looking for the articles on Nord Ost Theater and talked to Svni, a survivor of Nord Ost, who lost her daughter there and her American fiancee.

I'm so sorry for Svni's losses. By ridiculous contrast, I was in CA during the Nord Ost massacre, and hearing my mother-in-law complaining how she/her group of friends had planned on visiting Russia that year but because of that Evil George Bush, now they couldn't go. I retorted that Russia was a huge country, she'd be fine, she should stay out of the theatres.

The contrast between the two events, one in which innocent people were being massacred, and the other - my mil's excuse to beat up on George Bush as a reason for her not visiting Russia couldn't have more perfectly illustrated BDS for me. Drat that George Bush, making evil people massacre innocents so that my mil's vacation should be derailed. aaaaaaaahhhhh!

I still have a lot to learn, as I knew almost nothing about Chechnya,

I too have much to learn. I was up to my eyeballs in other projects at the time and could only afford to pay nominal attention. I'm getting fairly caught up, just perusing the Georgian threads.

Svni, I'll remember that name. Thank you nw_arizona granny.

55 posted on 08/21/2008 3:26:37 AM PDT by Alia
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To: Tailgunner Joe

The Chechens are pure mussie scum..as close as possible to a missing link.


56 posted on 08/21/2008 3:31:32 AM PDT by rrrod
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To: nw_arizona_granny
Russia and Venezuela took over the private companies and now our elected fools want to take over the oil companies. Today Venezuela took over the mines for cement that Mexico had in Venezuela.

Yes, I've been following these.

Today, FrontPageMag has coverage on recent developments in re the D-Axis:

Hugo Chávez's Andean Offensive

Tehran’s Georgia Victory

57 posted on 08/21/2008 3:31:55 AM PDT by Alia
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To: Sun

Hey, I know what he was trying to say. I felt bed for the Russian people as a whole, I mourned with them, including Putin. No I realize he, and a good part of Russia, are merciless thugs themselves. It doesn’t change how I feel about those kids and parents in Belsan.


58 posted on 08/21/2008 11:49:19 AM PDT by demshateGod (the GOP is dead to me)
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To: demshateGod

“It doesn’t change how I feel about those kids and parents in Belsan.”

I agree, but was confused when you only said Putin.

Peace


59 posted on 08/21/2008 3:13:56 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Hoplite
I agree that the Russian/Chechen pact is one of mutual need; not necessarily, accord.

as far as who's causing the lion's share of the mayhem, I expect that will become apparent over time, and have no doubt that the primary responsibility for failing to reign it in will be properly laid at the feet of someone wearing a Russian uniform.

According to this article, the business part of Russia is not very, uh, enthused.

60 posted on 08/21/2008 5:14:42 PM PDT by Alia
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